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Upcoming patch! The safety mode button for high sec...
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Devon Krah'tor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-10-25 01:02:41 UTC
Eve must be dying.

a safety feature to help new players learn the byzantinian laws of this game.

should I unsub now? safe myself the greif?
Greater.Insight.Skill.Knowledge
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2012-10-25 02:27:20 UTC
feihcsiM wrote:
so according to this pic disabling the safety can lead to other capsuleers attaching me...

ATTACHING ME TO WHAT?? Shocked

No, the pic says that disabling the safety will allow you to commit actions that can lead to other capsuleers attacking you.

Disabling the safety doesn't itself cause this to happen.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-10-25 03:29:54 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
feihcsiM wrote:
so according to this pic disabling the safety can lead to other capsuleers attaching me...

ATTACHING ME TO WHAT?? Shocked

No, the pic says that disabling the safety will allow you to commit actions that can lead to other capsuleers attacking you.

Disabling the safety doesn't itself cause this to happen.


I think he is talking about the accidental use of an 'h' instead of a 'k' in the word 'attaching'
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2012-10-25 03:32:46 UTC
Elvis Fett wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
feihcsiM wrote:
so according to this pic disabling the safety can lead to other capsuleers attaching me...

ATTACHING ME TO WHAT?? Shocked

No, the pic says that disabling the safety will allow you to commit actions that can lead to other capsuleers attacking you.

Disabling the safety doesn't itself cause this to happen.


I think he is talking about the accidental use of an 'h' instead of a 'k' in the word 'attaching'

GO ME
I ARE READING COMPREHENSHUN

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
#45 - 2012-10-25 04:21:07 UTC
Upcoming patch will be the last one. So enjoy !
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#46 - 2012-10-25 04:26:38 UTC
My wife says i push her buttons all the time...then I found her safety button one night and got slapped for my troubles. Sad
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#47 - 2012-10-25 05:57:21 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Ok i understand that noobs need a helping hand on not shooting the first thing they see when they enter the eve universe for the first time and then quitting 5 mins later confused, i get it, i really do..


But PLEASE!!
ONLY allow this module for 1 month old accounts only!!
If not i see the future!!..
In the future i bet you turn this game into a wow clone when you add additional features to the safety button such as protect me from being killed hahaha.

CCP this is a thin line, but its not all bad, good job on the new aggression timer for shooting NPC's i guess hunting the bears/farmers in wormholes and null will be more easier now without the logging off..

EDIT: safety button pic by chibbra.link




Let me get this straight: you want some client setting to be set up in a way that those who do not want to play "Aggression Mechanic Fu" all day lose the option after a month.

Why? So you can game the system to pad your all precious killboard?

You know, what a player sets on their client is nobody's business. And if they set up something that denies you a kill, and that bothers you, then you deserve to starve.

I keep my car key on the same ring I keep the key to the gun cabinet. Why? So I don't leave it unlocked when I go somewhere. Only a burglar looking to "upgrade" his life of crime from simple burglary to armed robbery would not like that. Therefore only a griefer would not like it when someone clicks a setting on their client that prevents you and your RR gang from lulz.


So much fear of this game becoming a WOW clone, which is impossible so long as there are no elves, but I have an equal concern for this becoming "Gotcha Online" where it's dumb little rules for every dumb little thing that only a basement dwelling neckbeard would take the time to master, as if the mechanic itself is the game and everything else is merely consequential.



This thread and the OP is proof that most high sec kills in this context are from someone not knowing aggression mechanics, and CCP is trying to fix that. I will welcome those new players who do not get griefed out of the game in 10 minutes. Chances are they will be of better character that this community needs.


I guess the proof is in the pudding right? what proof? did you even bother backing up what you written with killboard links on your accusations..?




I should, but I can't shake this feeling that I've been trolled. Cool

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#48 - 2012-10-25 11:19:16 UTC
I haven't been on the test server, but would "Disable security" setting get rid of those annoying popups that come up when I shoot a non-outlaw?

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svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-10-25 11:20:41 UTC
who cares? I will leave the safety off, so can you, stop crying.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#50 - 2012-10-25 11:23:38 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Ok i understand that noobs need a helping hand on not shooting the first thing they see when they enter the eve universe for the first time and then quitting 5 mins later confused, i get it, i really do..


But PLEASE!!
ONLY allow this module for 1 month old accounts only!!
If not i see the future!!..
In the future i bet you turn this game into a wow clone when you add additional features to the safety button such as protect me from being killed hahaha.

CCP this is a thin line, but its not all bad, good job on the new aggression timer for shooting NPC's i guess hunting the bears/farmers in wormholes and null will be more easier now without the logging off..

EDIT: safety button pic by chibbra.link


I do not see a problem there IF

If this substitutes the popup windows that ask you


"You really want that...


...You really really want that?"

Its much clearer if there is this kind of button and gankers can disable it beforehand and do not have to click the anoying pop up windows away when they want to fire...

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2012-10-25 11:24:23 UTC
Roime wrote:
I haven't been on the test server, but would "Disable security" setting get rid of those annoying popups that come up when I shoot a non-outlaw?


Ah you beat me there...

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#52 - 2012-10-25 11:39:14 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I guess my point is I don't see how this makes highsec any safer. All this does is prevent you from accidentally taking a can or shooting someone who'll get you concorded. It doesn't stop anyone from doing so who intend to do so.

it does not....people will die with safty on LolLolLol

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Kaahles
Jion Keanturi
#53 - 2012-10-25 11:44:37 UTC
Roime wrote:
I haven't been on the test server, but would "Disable security" setting get rid of those annoying popups that come up when I shoot a non-outlaw?


Haven't tested it myself but from what we have heard about this feature during fanfest that's exactly what it is for. Instead of the not really user friendly popup warnings you get that shiny button.

So in the end nothing really changes except that you don't always have to disable those stupid popups and then reset your settings when you want to have them back on. I say it's a good thing because it does not make anything any safer as it is now. Just less of a pain in the arse.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-10-25 11:46:27 UTC
I love not having to press YES ever again ...
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#55 - 2012-10-25 11:46:32 UTC
Kaahles wrote:
Roime wrote:
I haven't been on the test server, but would "Disable security" setting get rid of those annoying popups that come up when I shoot a non-outlaw?


Haven't tested it myself but from what we have heard about this feature during fanfest that's exactly what it is for. Instead of the not really user friendly popup warnings you get that shiny button.

So in the end nothing really changes except that you don't always have to disable those stupid popups and then reset your settings when you want to have them back on. I say it's a good thing because it does not make anything any safer as it is now. Just less of a pain in the arse.


in this case it is one of the best changes ever.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#56 - 2012-10-25 11:47:15 UTC
Disabling the safety is a perfect opportunity to add more sound to Eve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWwOJlOI1nU

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#57 - 2012-10-25 11:50:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Seriously? Are people actually whining about this?

What is wrong with you? If you don't like the button then turn the safety off and leave it off. I think the idea for the button is okay, not good, not bad, just ok and I'll be permanently turning it off. It will save me having to click those bloody "You about to do something naughty" messages in lowsec.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-10-25 11:54:38 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Seriously? Are people actually whining about this?

What is wrong with you? If you don't like the button then turn the safety off and leave it off. I think the idea for the button is okay, not good, not bad, just afk and I'll be permanently turning it off. It will save me having to click those bloody "You about to do something naughty" messages in lowsec.




People always have to find something to ***** about.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2012-10-25 12:00:58 UTC
I don't see why would anyone compalin about those buttons. Feature was already implemented from day one, in the form of warning popups.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#60 - 2012-10-25 12:03:56 UTC
Kaahles wrote:
Haven't tested it myself but from what we have heard about this feature during fanfest that's exactly what it is for. Instead of the not really user friendly popup warnings you get that shiny button.

So in the end nothing really changes except that you don't always have to disable those stupid popups and then reset your settings when you want to have them back on. I say it's a good thing because it does not make anything any safer as it is now. Just less of a pain in the arse.

Pretty much. They're a bit more comprehensive than that since the new flagging system cuts out a couple of special cases that were hard to catch with popups before, but in essence it's just a global, easily accessible “Warn about S-flags Y/N?” and “Warn about C-flags Y/N?” toggle.