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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-10-24 17:24:53 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Entitled, there's your problem right there, you are entitled to nothing in this game.


yea, well... and I say that with the utmost neutrality... that no longer applyies TO any game with monthly fees... these times are long gone.


This. Miners; Vote with your wallets! I urge you to take the most direct action you can to defend YOUR game play, YOUR free time, and YOUR style!
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#42 - 2012-10-24 17:25:01 UTC
I love bumping an Orca and then Watching the 20 Mach/Hulks follow it till they are out of Roid range :P

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La Dolce Vita
#43 - 2012-10-24 17:25:14 UTC
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#44 - 2012-10-24 17:28:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Entitled, there's your problem right there, you are entitled to nothing in this game.


yea, well... and I say that with the utmost neutrality... that no longer applyies TO any game with monthly fees... these times are long gone.


This. Miners; Vote with your wallets! I urge you to take the most direct action you can to defend YOUR game play, YOUR free time, and YOUR style!

So "defending" your style of game play is to encourage other to quit rather than actually play the game and overcome the obstacles in their path. Big smileBig smileBig smile

I'm glad you weren't on my track team back in high school. Smile

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#45 - 2012-10-24 17:30:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
*yawn* Typical undesirable arguments. It's ok, new changes will soon be made my fellow miners, and the undesirables will be forced away :)


I would rather have a highsec with the so-called undesirables running around than some fluffy la-la land where the only danger and content comes from PvE. Bear in mind that I'm primarily a PvE player myself (a solo corp tax dodging one at that), the chance of getting suicide ganked, baited by ninja looters, bumped off rocks or getting skinned on the market for a few hundred million by my competitors is what makes life interesting.

Just to clarify, before anyone picks up on the fact that I play solo, while I may be in a one man corp I do interact with other players in numerous public channels. Eve is afterall a social game.

Tali Ambraelle wrote:

This. Miners; Vote with your wallets! I urge you to take the most direct action you can to defend YOUR game play, YOUR free time, and YOUR style!


Please feel free to do so, once all the afk & carebear whiners are gone, the mineral prices may make full time mining actually worth doing.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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#46 - 2012-10-24 17:32:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
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I would rather have a highsec with the so-called undesirables running around than some fluffy la-la land where the only danger and content comes from PvE. Bear in mind that I'm primarily a PvE player myself (a solo corp tax dodging one at that), the chance of getting suicide ganked, baited by ninja looters, bumped off rocks or getting skinned on the market for a few hundred million by my competitors is what makes life interesting.


Apparently some people think you are playing "EvE the Mining Simulator" incorrectly.

Rest assured, most of the player base is in agreement with you.

Edit: Including Tali, whose main purpose appears to be pointing out how idiotic the whole debate is. Well done Tali.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#47 - 2012-10-24 17:36:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ranger 1 wrote:
Quote:
I would rather have a highsec with the so-called undesirables running around than some fluffy la-la land where the only danger and content comes from PvE. Bear in mind that I'm primarily a PvE player myself (a solo corp tax dodging one at that), the chance of getting suicide ganked, baited by ninja looters, bumped off rocks or getting skinned on the market for a few hundred million by my competitors is what makes life interesting.


Apparently some people think you are playing "EvE the Mining Simulator" incorrectly.

Rest assured, most of the player base is in agreement with you.


Oh noes, I must indulge in some self flagellation and repent of my sins Roll

nah bugger it, I'm breaking out the stabber and annoying the mindless competition

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#48 - 2012-10-24 17:38:35 UTC
Zkaor wrote:
Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.


P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks




Are you serious?

This is not WOW.

I can only hope you troll.

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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-10-24 17:48:37 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Please feel free to do so, once all the afk & carebear whiners are gone, the mineral prices may make full time mining actually worth doing.


Enjoy not affording anything more than a battle cruiser realistically.
Nanatoa
#50 - 2012-10-24 17:51:24 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Please feel free to do so, once all the afk & carebear whiners are gone, the mineral prices may make full time mining actually worth doing.


Enjoy not affording anything more than a battle cruiser realistically.

We only need cruisers anyway. Cruisers are best for bumps

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#51 - 2012-10-24 17:56:52 UTC
Won't anyone think about the asteroids? One day asteroids are going to stop appearing from thin air and then what will we do? We are a society dependent on minerals and when the asteroids are gone, so too will be the minerals. We must consider alternative energy solutions. Quickly, CCP, implement corn farming in PI so I can refine T2 ethanol.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#52 - 2012-10-24 17:56:58 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Please feel free to do so, once all the afk & carebear whiners are gone, the mineral prices may make full time mining actually worth doing.


Enjoy not affording anything more than a battle cruiser realistically.

We only need cruisers anyway. Cruisers are best for bumps


I prefer a WMD Typhoon myself. After Impact I have 4 Hurricanes, which on the next impact becomes 16 Stabbers, next impact it is 64 Breachers, and the final impact 256 tiny Veldspar asteroids which you then duct tape back together in to another Typhoon.

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Zkaor
HATRON 4
#53 - 2012-10-24 17:58:19 UTC
Not afk mining, doing laps around the item being mined does not work and W.O.W.?

My issue is not with the act of bumping but not being able to respond in a way other than pay or leave. To me this has been exploited enough and needs to be fixed.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#54 - 2012-10-24 17:58:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Please feel free to do so, once all the afk & carebear whiners are gone, the mineral prices may make full time mining actually worth doing.


Enjoy not affording anything more than a battle cruiser realistically.


It doesn't work like that, it's called supply and demand, if the demand is there people will provide the supply and probably not whine as much because the replacements will come from the ranks that accept that the game is not a fluffy la-la land where everything is soft and cuddly.

Zkaor wrote:
Not afk mining, doing laps around the item being mined does not work and W.O.W.?

My issue is not with the act of bumping but not being able to respond in a way other than pay or leave. To me this has been exploited enough and needs to be fixed.


Extortion Rackets have been going for as long as mankind has been capable of thinking, I think that's it's a pretty safe bet that the number of games that are freeform enough to allow the use of them can be counted on one hand, you're playing one of them. There's nothing to stop you enforcing your will on others, apart from the lack of will & the charisma to do so.

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Mire Stoude
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2012-10-24 17:59:28 UTC
Yah, lets make bumping give you kill rights, that can't backfire in any way at all! Also, how many miners would actually use those kill rights to do anything about getting bumped? ... Oh, the same people who shot at can flippers.
Elinarien
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-10-24 18:00:53 UTC
Just have an alt in a gank-fit catalyst standing by. That'll surprise the bumber & no doubt harvest some very tasty tears.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-10-24 18:04:02 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Zkaor wrote:
Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.


P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks


Pay the fee, it's 10m isk to afk to your little hearts content.


Why should he have to pay a fee for a resource center that does not belong to this group?


Emergent gameplay.

You'll be able to put bounties on the bumpers, and learn to orbit?
Shaalira D'arc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-10-24 18:06:21 UTC
For anyone curious as to what's behind this thread:

http://www.minerbumping.com/
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#59 - 2012-10-24 18:06:35 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Don't care. Let them mine in high sec. James is an undesirable deserving of ban for interrupting paying customers' game play.

Is this directed at me? If so, I have a few questions.

1. In what way am I an "undesirable"?
2. Why is your opinion about my desirability more important than others'?
3. Why should I get a ban if I do not violate the EULA?
4. How am I interrupting others' game play by improving it?
5. Is it "game play" if they're AFK?

Thanks! Smile

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2012-10-24 18:06:55 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Zkaor wrote:
Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.


P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks


Pay the fee, it's 10m isk to afk to your little hearts content.


Why should he have to pay a fee for a resource center that does not belong to this group?


Because that group has the ability and desire to disrupt that resource center. I don't make a thread on EVE-O whenever a roaming gang comes through my ratting system and disrupts my resource center, I adapt and DEAL WITH IT.

Gankers complained about barge changes making highsec safer. Miners responded telling gankers to adapt. Gankers adapt, miners come crying.

James 315 is my hero.

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