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Pic's from dual, test sever. ORE FRIG and THE NEW MInmatar destoryer

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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#21 - 2012-10-22 19:23:20 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:

i can made 150-200mil isk on misions lvl 4 per hour while use dual tengu or tengu + naga, zero balance betwen long therm mining and mission runing.


The whole one tank one spank combo wont be as useful in winter as all NPCs will start switching targets. Not as complex as sleepers but they will move to targets closer to their sig size. So that no tank naga will start seeing unwanted attention.

Yes mining sucks. Yet as one of the easiest things to do hours into the game, the new frig makes it so much easier than the old ships.
highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2012-10-23 21:55:22 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
highonpop wrote:
it takes such a short time to train into a retriever i just dont understand why you would spend that time training into a mining frigate. the first mining frigates were available after training the racial frigate skill. this mining frigate, which will probably require a special skill, won't replace a mining barge. I guess if you just really dont want to train astrogeology then the frigate makes sense.. other than that. useless


Check the role/skill bonuses again.

CCP means this to be the dedicated gas harvester ship.

And to be 'ninja lowsec miner'........

Given that you can stick a cloak on it, and it has a built-in +2 stabby, I can see this as a very cheap alternative for miners trying to sneak into low/null to get zydrine and such.

Probably has cruiser-level EHP on it, if you stick a DCII in the low instead of a mining upgrade....




oh damn. That's nice since i harvest gas from time to time. However, gas harvesting doesn't really need a bonus. Most sites I do in cloud ring can be harvested fully in ~1 hour in a shield tanked hurricane that has 5 T2 harvesters and enough passive tank to deal with the damage dealt by the gas clouds. IDK that I would even consider making the switch tbh

FC, what do?

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#23 - 2012-10-23 22:13:54 UTC
highonpop wrote:
Mike Adoulin wrote:
highonpop wrote:
it takes such a short time to train into a retriever i just dont understand why you would spend that time training into a mining frigate. the first mining frigates were available after training the racial frigate skill. this mining frigate, which will probably require a special skill, won't replace a mining barge. I guess if you just really dont want to train astrogeology then the frigate makes sense.. other than that. useless


Check the role/skill bonuses again.

CCP means this to be the dedicated gas harvester ship.

And to be 'ninja lowsec miner'........

Given that you can stick a cloak on it, and it has a built-in +2 stabby, I can see this as a very cheap alternative for miners trying to sneak into low/null to get zydrine and such.

Probably has cruiser-level EHP on it, if you stick a DCII in the low instead of a mining upgrade....




oh damn. That's nice since i harvest gas from time to time. However, gas harvesting doesn't really need a bonus. Most sites I do in cloud ring can be harvested fully in ~1 hour in a shield tanked hurricane that has 5 T2 harvesters and enough passive tank to deal with the damage dealt by the gas clouds. IDK that I would even consider making the switch tbh

It will be interesting to run the numbers... as well as see how agile the little guy is... for getting into (and more importantly out of) area's that you aren't welcome in.

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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-10-23 22:25:14 UTC
Meh, ur a spy
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#25 - 2012-10-23 22:31:38 UTC
Too bad CCP couldn't find their way to give it 2 extra lows. Might have been a decent little lowsec ninja looter if they had. I does look pretty good though. ..and you know what they say:

CCP wrote:
If it looks good it is good.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#26 - 2012-10-23 22:37:14 UTC
So, all of the destroyers are on the test server.

Do they have names yet?
Iam a Spy2
solo and loveing it
#27 - 2012-10-24 06:25:45 UTC
Kuehnelt wrote:
So, all of the destroyers are on the test server.

Do they have names yet?



the not seeded you have to buy the bpc and build them.
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-10-24 06:27:26 UTC
nice, cool mining frigate :)
Dave stark
#29 - 2012-10-24 06:36:48 UTC
highonpop wrote:
it takes such a short time to train into a retriever i just dont understand why you would spend that time training into a mining frigate. the first mining frigates were available after training the racial frigate skill. this mining frigate, which will probably require a special skill, won't replace a mining barge. I guess if you just really dont want to train astrogeology then the frigate makes sense.. other than that. useless


iirc the ore mining frigate skill is a x2 skill, even to rank 1 will take practically no time. the ore frigate is vastly superior to a bantam for example. to a person who has a 3 day old account that 5k ore bay kicks the stuffing out of a 300m3 ore bay on a bantam.
not to mention the ore frig has an extra mining turret.

even training ore frig to I and then focusing on skills for a mining barge won't be wasted.

the ore frigate isn't meant to replace a mining barge, it's meant to replace those damn awful racial mining frigates which are absolutely terrible because they have about 120 seconds of mining time's worth of ore hold.

the ore frigate is far from useless, you just don't seem to really understand how mining works.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#30 - 2012-10-24 15:25:57 UTC
The mining frigate looks silly with only 2 out of 3 possible turret points used. Straight

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Ryhss
#31 - 2012-10-24 15:31:14 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
looks like a steaming pile of pewp

Poop is such a nice word....

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"

Iam a Spy2
solo and loveing it
#32 - 2012-10-24 15:43:19 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
The mining frigate looks silly with only 2 out of 3 possible turret points used. Straight



Over it looks good and for a starting mining ship its damn good at it job. fully skills 2 t2 mining lasers act like five and half as well as the gas ones i see alot of ninja mining in low and 0.0 with cloak fits comeing.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#33 - 2012-10-24 16:41:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
Tobiaz wrote:
The mining frigate looks silly with only 2 out of 3 possible turret points used. Straight

Utility slot. tractor, salvager turret

Now if all highslots had a graphic, like a dish array for cloak, or rep turrets, or smartbomb pulse emitters. it would all look better.

Whats going to kill me are slot locations that are NEVER used. such as the caldari destroyer. the model was designed for 8 slots.
It has been already balanced down to 7 highs. So unless they take off some geometry... thats going to drive me nuts.
Solhild
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-10-24 19:44:41 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Tobiaz wrote:
The mining frigate looks silly with only 2 out of 3 possible turret points used. Straight

Utility slot. tractor, salvager turret

Now if all highslots had a graphic, like a dish array for cloak, or rep turrets, or smartbomb pulse emitters. it would all look better.

Whats going to kill me are slot locations that are NEVER used. such as the caldari destroyer. the model was designed for 8 slots.
It has been already balanced down to 7 highs. So unless they take off some geometry... thats going to drive me nuts.


Confirming that is annoying. The Minmatar one had a random rear turret placement that didn't involve a hard point - gives me hope that it's still very much a work in progress. I think the Ore Frigate is pretty cool, JCB in space Big smile
Laurence Pinkitin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-10-25 02:12:34 UTC
mining frig looks like ass, then again most frigs do.
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