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New PVE King?
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Dren Nas
The Omega Syndicate
#1 - 2012-10-23 21:54:19 UTC
If/When the missile nurf goes through, the tengu might be poised to lose it's current seat as the king of PVE. If this does happen, what ship will the crown be passed to? hmmmmmm..... what is everyone's thoughts on the matter?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-10-23 21:59:56 UTC
none. there is no other ship that is so versatile.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-10-23 22:00:28 UTC
i thought mining titan was pve king?
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-10-23 22:29:30 UTC
Mach still will be better........... so?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#5 - 2012-10-23 22:34:35 UTC
Flurk Hellbron wrote:
Mach still will be better........... so?


That was pretty much my take too. Mach already wins at missions and will continue to do so after the changes.

But that's mainly for anoms, belt ratting, and missions. In wormholes and exploration... I'm not sure yet. Depending on exactly how the aggression changes shake out, the Proteus is looking strong for exploration. Tengu won't be entirely obsolete though.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-10-23 23:15:34 UTC
For anoms, the Thanatos trumps the Machariel. The Nightmare is also better against EM weak rats. The Tengu is still going to be the T3 of choice for PVE content as even with the reductions, HML's will still be the best medium sized long range weapon system.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#7 - 2012-10-23 23:32:07 UTC
I wonder how the Golem will do after Missile Changes. Gotta love 25% lower Explosion Radius.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-10-23 23:44:43 UTC
I don't see what the fuss is... people weren't flying the tengu for its uber dps , it is mostly its versatility, which really isn't going to change in the next patch. So we loose some dps and range.. no biggie imo
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#9 - 2012-10-24 01:14:56 UTC
Its the Maller

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-10-24 02:06:23 UTC
The tengu was NEVER the most efficient PVE option, there have always been many better options and even severa T1 BSs are better.
fact of the matter is tenngu is just easier, not better.

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Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#11 - 2012-10-24 04:02:39 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
The tengu was NEVER the most efficient PVE option, there have always been many better options and even severa T1 BSs are better.
fact of the matter is tenngu is just easier, not better.


Quoting this man, for he speaks the truth.
Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-10-24 06:02:15 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
The tengu was NEVER the most efficient PVE option, there have always been many better options and even severa T1 BSs are better.
fact of the matter is tenngu is just easier, not better.


This, Tengu is a blitzing ship but it's damage is nothing really special. Compared to a Machariel it's a joke.
Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption
Lux Inter Astra
#13 - 2012-10-24 06:03:43 UTC
Vindicator is king ****. **** Tengus
Iam a Spy2
solo and loveing it
#14 - 2012-10-24 06:24:33 UTC
Tengu has small size and great tank but its dps is far shot off great.

Machariel is fast i can reach over 615 m/s with AB and fire my guns out passed 80k with barrage ammo and with in 45k and drone drop over 1300 dps with hail ammo.

so i get more then 2x the dps just about the same speed and range of a tengu and just as heavy tank. So the Machariel for a mission ship hands down is alot better then the tengu could ever hope for.

As for the Vindicator great dps its slower and gives up alot of tank for dps and 95% of Vindicators are blasers and short on range in my book Vindicator is and will allway be a pvp not pve ship.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-10-24 11:28:59 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
none. there is no other ship that is so versatile.



Loki, but schhhhhht !

brb
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#16 - 2012-10-24 12:29:51 UTC
Nerf Machs! Long live the Tengu!

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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
#17 - 2012-10-24 12:52:05 UTC
HAM Tengu or gank Machariel/Vindicator/Nightmare
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2012-10-24 13:07:24 UTC
Dren Nas wrote:
If/When the missile nurf goes through, the tengu might be poised to lose it's current seat as the king of PVE. If this does happen, what ship will the crown be passed to? hmmmmmm..... what is everyone's thoughts on the matter?



HAM Tengu.

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Threshner
#19 - 2012-10-24 18:52:09 UTC
I will stick to my CNR. Good DPS Good Tank .... what is there not to love?
Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#20 - 2012-10-24 19:15:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Mra Rednu
Jack Miton wrote:
The tengu was NEVER the most efficient PVE option, there have always been many better options and even severa T1 BSs are better.
fact of the matter is tenngu is just easier, not better.



This'ing this, it's a noob friendly ship using a noob friendly weapons system.
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