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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#101 - 2012-10-23 18:03:53 UTC
Mjolnir Gost wrote:
Abannan wrote:
As much of a hilarious descision this was, and how funny I'm finding the tears of the Caldari, I do agree that a complete warzone reset would have been the better idea


Point is... reset warzone control, completely, start with a clean slate then you can see if your changes work or are horse manure.



As soon as they remove this ****** docking denial mechanic that forces people to blob together in home systems, I am all for a reset.
Mjolnir Gost
Death By Design
#102 - 2012-10-23 18:07:20 UTC
Megos Adriano wrote:
Also, are people ITFs really stupid enough to believe that CCP is baised in favor of either faction (Gal/Min vs Cal/Amarr)?


Look, you can read what I have read and come to your own conclusion. I am just saying that CCP rushed this, didn't plan properly to give equall consideration to all factions and ultimately didn't allow fair warning when it mattered more to one faction than another. We are recovering nicely so at this point I truly don't care, but commentary is what I am offering, a different perspective if you will.

So call me stupid, raged up, any other names you can think of, I am simply brave enough to say the truth in this in that CCP implemented this in a half-assed, rushed and ******** way.

Everyone gets found out for what they really are eventually. 
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#103 - 2012-10-23 19:09:05 UTC
Mjolnir Gost wrote:
Megos Adriano wrote:
Also, are people ITFs really stupid enough to believe that CCP is baised in favor of either faction (Gal/Min vs Cal/Amarr)?

in that CCP implemented this in a half-assed, rushed and ******** way.



As expected from CCP

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Dan Carter Murray
#104 - 2012-10-23 19:34:54 UTC
Rezig Huruta wrote:
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
I foresee bunker busting gangs tonight...and 2 completely ****** factions forever whether the bunker busts happen or not.



...
Two completely what? Oh my lord! You've left me hanging. Happy? Lethargic? Xenophobic? Galactophagous? What's the secret word?!


You can count the number of asterisks and rule out all your guesses.

Don't ever let anyone tell you that you're smart.

Stand up for your stupidity.

Related somewhat to the post: I'd like to see CCP purge FW pilots and force them to rejoin. I'm curious about the active number of pilots for each faction now that farmville is (somewhat) over.

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Shaalira D'arc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2012-10-23 19:37:54 UTC
If you're Caldari and you're worried about warzone control, stop complaining: this early change benefits you. Here's why.

1) While the majority of the map is Gallente, the vast majority of those systems are vulnerable.

2) They're not just vulnerable, they're deeply vulnerable. Farmers have had weeks of pushing them 23/7. It'd take much more time to get them out of vulnerable since there won't be as many farmers after this change.

In short, you've got nothing stopping you from flipping those systems over the next month or so. I'd be surprised if the majority of the warzone wasn't Caldari by December.

So stop panicking, remove your tinfoil hats, and recognize that this timing is really in favor of the Caldari.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#106 - 2012-10-23 19:49:27 UTC
Shaalira D'arc wrote:
If you're Caldari and you're worried about warzone control, stop complaining: this early change benefits you. Here's why.

1) While the majority of the map is Gallente, the vast majority of those systems are vulnerable.

2) They're not just vulnerable, they're deeply vulnerable. Farmers have had weeks of pushing them 23/7. It'd take much more time to get them out of vulnerable since there won't be as many farmers after this change.

In short, you've got nothing stopping you from flipping those systems over the next month or so. I'd be surprised if the majority of the warzone wasn't Caldari by December.

So stop panicking, remove your tinfoil hats, and recognize that this timing is really in favor of the Caldari.


actually ccp limited contested to 133% so no, those are not so deeply contested as you could think.

33% is about a day plexing
von Khan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#107 - 2012-10-23 20:21:07 UTC
Shaalira D'arc wrote:
If you're Caldari and you're worried about warzone control, stop complaining: this early change benefits you. Here's why.

1) While the majority of the map is Gallente, the vast majority of those systems are vulnerable.

2) They're not just vulnerable, they're deeply vulnerable. Farmers have had weeks of pushing them 23/7. It'd take much more time to get them out of vulnerable since there won't be as many farmers after this change.

In short, you've got nothing stopping you from flipping those systems over the next month or so. I'd be surprised if the majority of the warzone wasn't Caldari by December.

So stop panicking, remove your tinfoil hats, and recognize that this timing is really in favor of the Caldari.


What about the Amarr failure, i think that is the reasons this is implemented in a rush,... to avoid a FW reset.

von Khan
Shaalira D'arc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2012-10-23 20:27:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Shaalira D'arc
Bad Messenger wrote:


actually ccp limited contested to 133% so no, those are not so deeply contested as you could think.

33% is about a day plexing


Are you absolutely certain about this?

It wasn't in the dev blog, so the safe assumption seems to be that this will be a December change along with the rest of the planned iteration.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#109 - 2012-10-23 20:28:51 UTC
Fozzie said 33% over. Still, it's not like we were doing 75k LP/day like the Caldari. Only 5k/day. They still have the advantage.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#110 - 2012-10-23 20:30:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Shaarlira-

link.

Quote:
Quick note for those who are defensive plexing across the warzones right now. As part of the patch today we took every system that had more than 4000 VPs worth of vulnerability (>133%) and set them to 4000 VPs.

We are planning to implement a cap on the number of VPs past vulnerable a system can collect, but that was not ready to deploy quite yet.


That's still a heck of lot of deplexing. But whatever. *Shrugs*

Edit: Anyone who thinks their militia can hold T4 for a sustainable amount of time is smoking something. I'm quite happy if Gal Mil can hold T3 with slight fluctuations here and there. I know the personnel and the warzone on both sides quite well. If the Caldari really believe they can hold T4 for a sustained period and want to bust all these systems in order to do so, then go right ahead. But you're just putting undo stress on yourself. I can tell Mjolnir is just fed up already from the past 24 hours; herding cats is not a fun job :)

Just be happy if you can hold T3 . That's more doable. Both sides are happy and we can get back to pew

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Shaalira D'arc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2012-10-23 20:33:37 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
Shaarlira-

link.

Quote:
Quick note for those who are defensive plexing across the warzones right now. As part of the patch today we took every system that had more than 4000 VPs worth of vulnerability (>133%) and set them to 4000 VPs.

We are planning to implement a cap on the number of VPs past vulnerable a system can collect, but that was not ready to deploy quite yet.


That's still a heck of lot of deplexing. But whatever. *Shrugs*


Oho, I stand corrected.

Still, yes. That's a **** ton of deplexing to do. Plenty of time for the Caldari to sweep vulnerable systems.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#112 - 2012-10-23 20:47:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Call me an optimist, but I believe we can hold the required number of systems for T3 (42?). It's really not that hard. If everyone just gets out and afk deplexes for a 1-2 days max, we'll be fine and stop the bleeding. If, however, Gal Mil shows their A.D.D and starts chasing merlins with a 15 man gang in the evenings, then yeah, we're screwed :)

I have a noob deplexing alt running a couple of systems and it's raking in the ELLL PEEE as we speak :)

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Von Proton
The Ressabiators
#113 - 2012-10-23 21:11:37 UTC
Dedicated to our beloved Drama Queens: You are truly inspiring.

http://i.imgur.com/iTLxs.gif

You know who you are.

Xoxo
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#114 - 2012-10-23 21:14:37 UTC
About time
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#115 - 2012-10-23 21:23:08 UTC
Von Proton wrote:
Dedicated to our beloved Drama Queens: You are truly inspiring.

http://i.imgur.com/iTLxs.gif

You know who you are.

Xoxo


LMAO. +5

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#116 - 2012-10-23 21:26:32 UTC
This thread delivers
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#117 - 2012-10-23 21:37:00 UTC
Von Proton wrote:
Dedicated to our beloved Drama Queens: You are truly inspiring.

http://i.imgur.com/iTLxs.gif

You know who you are.

Xoxo

+1 useless EVE forums like for you!

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Megos Adriano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2012-10-23 22:04:39 UTC
Mjolnir Gost wrote:
Megos Adriano wrote:
Also, are people ITFs really stupid enough to believe that CCP is baised in favor of either faction (Gal/Min vs Cal/Amarr)?


Look, you can read what I have read and come to your own conclusion. I am just saying that CCP rushed this, didn't plan properly to give equall consideration to all factions and ultimately didn't allow fair warning when it mattered more to one faction than another. We are recovering nicely so at this point I truly don't care, but commentary is what I am offering, a different perspective if you will.

So call me stupid, raged up, any other names you can think of, I am simply brave enough to say the truth in this in that CCP implemented this in a half-assed, rushed and ******** way.



Warzone control isn't CCP's responsibility, it's the players. What, you think they should hold your ****ing hand when you log in? Idiot.

And boom goes the dynamite.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#119 - 2012-10-23 22:08:40 UTC
Mjolnir Gost thanks for the lols. Get a grip mate.

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Pulgy
Doomheim
#120 - 2012-10-23 23:57:58 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Mjolnir Gost thanks for the lols. Get a grip mate.


He's too far gone I think.
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