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Sky Marshal
State War Academy
Caldari State
#301 - 2012-10-23 11:35:44 UTC
I knew it... Each time I want to do something, CCP nerf it few days after. Falcons was nerfed one month after I trained it, heavy missiles is going to be nerfed, etc. And I just resub and planned to do FW...

I wonder how they know what I think. Oh well, I will stay in the station from now on. No, wait... They will nerf stations if I do.
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#302 - 2012-10-23 11:41:49 UTC
Andski wrote:
It's better for them to take the hatchet to the massive LP faucet and then address any imbalances in future iterations than to delay fixing the massive LP faucet because of imbalances that a fix is likely to create. ~hth~

It would have been better if they hadn't launched the abject failure in the first place, over-incentivization leads to one thing and one thing only .. always has and always will. Not even possible for them to call "20/20 Hindsight" because we bloody TOLD them what the result was going to be immediately after their FF presentation which as you recall was what launched with only a minute adjustment.

Now they want to move the farm from offensive to defensive. LP over time will drop but that is about it and in the process they will more than likely create a 2 militia system where no one in their right mind (ie. such as me as a RP'er) would ever join the downtrodden.

Let me give you a snapshot of how metro (doesn't get more backwater than that) will look 3 months hence:
Dominant militia will perma-farm all systems using alts in enemy militia to offensive plex (getting LP) while main/alt defensive plex same system after the fact (getting LP). Can be done in near perfect safety as travel time for legitimate enemies is insane 'out there', biggest threat will be from other farmers/wanna-be pew'ers who accidentally shoot the farming alts.

Had thought and even expected that the threads went up early so that they could get gauge the weather and get ideas to flesh out a solid system, but apparently all they were for was to say that there was dialogue .. ******* tricksy politician's scheme if ever I saw one.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#303 - 2012-10-23 11:47:04 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Quick clarification: With the patch tomorrow we will be reducing the over-vulnerability of many systems so that they cannot be defensively farmed for extensive periods of time after the deployment, and that with concerted effort each side can influence the vulnerability of systems in their warzone without being forced to use alts in the opposing side.


Merritoff wrote:
CCP is working via a variety of methods to bring the price of PLEX down, and FW has been identified as an area that can help the process along.
Can you elaborate on this comment in the blog? I am sure I am not only one with a ... limited period of vested interest.

The only method I'll be discussing at this time if FW changes, but rest assured that the price of PLEX is something that the Eve Central Bank is keeping a close eye on.


You really are stupid, no one is going to defend systems for isk because LP is pretty much worthless, but you really favor minmatar and gallente on this change by making sure that they manage to defend several systems from vulnerable to contested.

Maximize the fuckup ! Well done, CCP should really kick some devs who 1st made horrible isk farm and then they fix it by favoring some sides that happend to be represented by current CSM members.


Pro Posting tip for the day: Be just like this guy!

1. Calling CCP devs stupid - always gets good results.
2. Emo ranting and raving without any logical reasoning - usually sways everyone's opinions.
3. Waving your tinfoil hat around in the air - Alerts fellow conspiracy club members of your credentials.

These three steps are tried and true methods of generating positive results and getting CCP devs to pay special attention to your opinions. Facts, logic and articulately presented arguments are totally overrated.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Gunship
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#304 - 2012-10-23 11:47:32 UTC
Are CCP going to do anything about the map? A good suggestion is here http://i.imgur.com/aM9Ir.jpg

 How To use a Probe Scanner in Eve Online

SwissChris1
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#305 - 2012-10-23 11:48:33 UTC  |  Edited by: SwissChris1
Seriously, **** you. P

Moon goo has been broken for ages, but lets screw the little guy first
Recruitment Specialist
Doomheim
#306 - 2012-10-23 11:55:28 UTC
SwissChris1 wrote:
Seriously, **** you. P

Moon goo has been broken for ages, but lets screw the little guy first



Ah but by screwing with FW they only upset farmers .... cant be upsetting the nullsec crowd can we?
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#307 - 2012-10-23 12:01:54 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Quick clarification: With the patch tomorrow we will be reducing the over-vulnerability of many systems so that they cannot be defensively farmed for extensive periods of time after the deployment, and that with concerted effort each side can influence the vulnerability of systems in their warzone without being forced to use alts in the opposing side.


Merritoff wrote:
CCP is working via a variety of methods to bring the price of PLEX down, and FW has been identified as an area that can help the process along.
Can you elaborate on this comment in the blog? I am sure I am not only one with a ... limited period of vested interest.

The only method I'll be discussing at this time if FW changes, but rest assured that the price of PLEX is something that the Eve Central Bank is keeping a close eye on.


You really are stupid, no one is going to defend systems for isk because LP is pretty much worthless, but you really favor minmatar and gallente on this change by making sure that they manage to defend several systems from vulnerable to contested.

Maximize the fuckup ! Well done, CCP should really kick some devs who 1st made horrible isk farm and then they fix it by favoring some sides that happend to be represented by current CSM members.


Pro Posting tip for the day: Be just like this guy!

1. Calling CCP devs stupid - always gets good results.
2. Emo ranting and raving without any logical reasoning - usually sways everyone's opinions.
3. Waving your tinfoil hat around in the air - Alerts fellow conspiracy club members of your credentials.

These three steps are tried and true methods of generating positive results and getting CCP devs to pay special attention to your opinions. Facts, logic and articulately presented arguments are totally overrated.



who cares about my opinions anyway, CCP already applied patch.
Siobhan MacLeary
Doomheim
#308 - 2012-10-23 12:01:58 UTC
Recruitment Specialist wrote:
SwissChris1 wrote:
Seriously, **** you. P

Moon goo has been broken for ages, but lets screw the little guy first



Ah but by screwing with FW they only upset farmers .... cant be upsetting the nullsec crowd can we?


Your tinfoil is showing.

“Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.” - CCP Soundwave
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#309 - 2012-10-23 12:04:08 UTC
Recruitment Specialist wrote:
SwissChris1 wrote:
Seriously, **** you. P

Moon goo has been broken for ages, but lets screw the little guy first



Ah but by screwing with FW they only upset farmers .... cant be upsetting the nullsec crowd can we?


Actually farmers are not upset at all, they already made hundreds of billions isk, CCP ****** over those players who stay and play FW after nerf and are not interested about isk at all.
Axl Borlara
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#310 - 2012-10-23 12:05:06 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
IMHO, there should be only one type of plex period, with NPC's spawning either way.
OMFG?!?

Are you seriously championing Susan Black's idea that plexes should have NO ship restrictions whatsoever? Do you just blindly agree with every dumb idea she puts forward?


I've still got 10 pages to read through, so may well have missed stuff.

Plexs should absolutely be kept with different ship restrictions. (although things like pirate/faction frigs maybe shouldn't be allowed in minor plexs, etc).

One of the great things about having to kill npc's in a plex is that it will probably encourage larger ships to be flown - ie battleships - in order to cap major plexs. There will be more/some reason to fly ships other than t1 frigs and destroyers.

Great sounding patch so far.
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
#311 - 2012-10-23 12:37:23 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Hmm. Seems the only posting the CSM does now is to cheerlead devblogs.

At least we know the CSM is doing their job marketing the game.


My devblogs bring all the capsuleers to the yard.

In all seriousness, it's one of the side effects of showing dev blogs to the CSM ahead of time and often incorporating some of their feedback before release. Cool


CSM........ LOLOL
The Prowling Tiger
Doomheim
#312 - 2012-10-23 12:45:38 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:


who cares about my opinions anyway, CCP already applied patch.

Good show, my farming friend. Good show. You've fought the good fight, but it's over now. You can finally rest, and eye the 'Cancel Subscription' button with a tear in your eye.
SwissChris1
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#313 - 2012-10-23 12:50:49 UTC
The Prowling Tiger wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:


who cares about my opinions anyway, CCP already applied patch.

Good show, my farming friend. Good show. You've fought the good fight, but it's over now. You can finally rest, and eye the 'Cancel Subscription' button with a tear in your eye.


Aw how cute, you posted on an alt Lol
DJ P0N-3
Table Flippendeavors
#314 - 2012-10-23 13:07:19 UTC
SwissChris1 wrote:
The Prowling Tiger wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:


who cares about my opinions anyway, CCP already applied patch.

Good show, my farming friend. Good show. You've fought the good fight, but it's over now. You can finally rest, and eye the 'Cancel Subscription' button with a tear in your eye.


Aw how cute, you posted on an alt Lol


Shpfff, who trains Forum Warrior V on their main?
Recruitment Specialist
Doomheim
#315 - 2012-10-23 13:07:53 UTC
Siobhan MacLeary wrote:
Recruitment Specialist wrote:
SwissChris1 wrote:
Seriously, **** you. P

Moon goo has been broken for ages, but lets screw the little guy first



Ah but by screwing with FW they only upset farmers .... cant be upsetting the nullsec crowd can we?


Your tinfoil is showing.


Biggest ISK reward for minimum effort ... Tech moons

Biggest driver of inflation and Tech 2 costs .... Tech

Single biggest bottleneck in T2 production ... Tech

95% of all Tech in nullsec or controlled by nullsec entities

Universal tech moon income PER HOUR is approx 5 billion isk

So tell me CCP, how exactly is nerfbatting the little guy going to bring PLEX prices down?

Grow a pair and deal with the North
SwissChris1
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#316 - 2012-10-23 13:10:49 UTC
Recruitment Specialist wrote:
Siobhan MacLeary wrote:
Recruitment Specialist wrote:
SwissChris1 wrote:
Seriously, **** you. P

Moon goo has been broken for ages, but lets screw the little guy first



Ah but by screwing with FW they only upset farmers .... cant be upsetting the nullsec crowd can we?


Your tinfoil is showing.


Biggest ISK reward for minimum effort ... Tech moons

Biggest driver of inflation and Tech 2 costs .... Tech

Single biggest bottleneck in T2 production ... Tech

95% of all Tech in nullsec or controlled by nullsec entities

Universal tech moon income PER HOUR is approx 5 billion isk

So tell me CCP, how exactly is nerfbatting the little guy going to bring PLEX prices down?

Grow a pair and deal with the North


QFT...CCP only cares if a few are super rich because spreading the wealth is bad for business. You are worse than America :D
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#317 - 2012-10-23 13:16:39 UTC
Recruitment Specialist wrote:


Biggest ISK reward for minimum effort ... Tech moons


Really? Cool, Ima go get me a tech moon! Think a small corp or one-man operation can pull that off?


Minimum effort - only after you've built up a strong fleet, taken the moon away from someone else, built your own defensive mining POS, and then held the space or at least been able to defend the POS long term. Some of that takes effort on a scale slightly above "minimal".

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#318 - 2012-10-23 13:16:40 UTC
Recruitment Specialist wrote:
Siobhan MacLeary wrote:
Recruitment Specialist wrote:
SwissChris1 wrote:
Seriously, **** you. P

Moon goo has been broken for ages, but lets screw the little guy first



Ah but by screwing with FW they only upset farmers .... cant be upsetting the nullsec crowd can we?


Your tinfoil is showing.


Biggest ISK reward for minimum effort ... Tech moons

Biggest driver of inflation and Tech 2 costs .... Tech

Single biggest bottleneck in T2 production ... Tech

95% of all Tech in nullsec or controlled by nullsec entities

Universal tech moon income PER HOUR is approx 5 billion isk

So tell me CCP, how exactly is nerfbatting the little guy going to bring PLEX prices down?

Grow a pair and deal with the North


If tech moons are such low effort wealth fountains, why don't you go snag yourself half a dozen or so?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Iris Bravemount
Golden Grinding Gears
#319 - 2012-10-23 13:18:14 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Recruitment Specialist wrote:


Biggest ISK reward for minimum effort ... Tech moons


Really? Cool, Ima go get me a tech moon! Think a small corp or one-man operation can pull that off?


Minimum effort - only after you've built up a strong fleet, taken the moon away from someone else, built your own defensive mining POS, and then held the space or at least been able to defend the POS long term. Some of that takes effort on a scale slightly above "minimal".



You forgot fuelling the deathstar. Cool

"I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise. My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity." - Paladin's Creed
SwissChris1
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#320 - 2012-10-23 13:22:55 UTC  |  Edited by: SwissChris1
War Kitten wrote:
Recruitment Specialist wrote:


Biggest ISK reward for minimum effort ... Tech moons


Really? Cool, Ima go get me a tech moon! Think a small corp or one-man operation can pull that off?


Minimum effort - only after you've built up a strong fleet, taken the moon away from someone else, built your own defensive mining POS, and then held the space or at least been able to defend the POS long term. Some of that takes effort on a scale slightly above "minimal".


Clearly you don't know how OPEC works and what a non aggression act stands for.