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Daredevil PVP
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Vayeate Marquise
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-22 20:39:14 UTC
I'm looking to fit a PVP Daredevil fit. I'm not interested in rail fits, just t2 neutron blaster fits, scram and web. The one thing I am unsure about is if I should go MWD or AB. I love the speed the MWD can give me to get on stuff or get away, but the fitting would be easier with an AB. I want to use a Vamp/Armor Rep combo but that doesn't seem possible with the PG the MWD leaves me.

Currently I have a MWD/Armor rep fit Daredevil but the EHP (with the DCU II off) is 2,000 +, pretty low considering Assault frigs get much higher.

I'd like to have SOME sort of tank without gimping my speed. Going the resists stacking route doesn't seem all that great considering the crap T1 resists.

Problem? ~.~
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#2 - 2012-10-22 21:44:03 UTC
Sell it, get something better. Win EVE...

Sorry I know its a pain, I love the idea of the ship I really do. But its a total pain to make it work.
Risien Drogonne
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-10-22 22:01:39 UTC
The ship is just too hard to fit unless you start spending zillions on really expensive modules, at which point there are many far better options available.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#4 - 2012-10-22 22:08:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Vilnius Zar
The problem with the DD is that its strategy is very niche, all it's really good at is solo vs another frigate and even then there's exceptions of stuff it simply can't take on. So while it's "amazing" in one situation it's "total suck" in many others, and for a ship that costs as much as it does it's just not worth it. I'm sure many people will tell you amazing tales (mostly hearsay) about how awesome it is, in reality it's a funky toy, nothing more.

But to answer your question, AB makes the most sense but it's still slow which is ok if you have a cheapo ship to toy with but losing expensive DDs to kite fit T1 frigs is a bit embarrassing. With MWD it's not really that useful when compared to the newly upgraded T1 frigs. The real answer, I guess, is: don't fit it at all.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#5 - 2012-10-22 23:21:46 UTC
I've seen a video of this guy using a MWD + Web + MSE + Blaster honour tackle Daredevil, the 90% web is enough to dictate range, he ganked them before they had a chance to realize they weren't pointed.
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#6 - 2012-10-23 10:38:31 UTC  |  Edited by: nahjustwarpin
[Daredevil]

2x Light Ion Blaster II (Void S)
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Small Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I

don't fly without a neut.

needs AWU2 and 1%PG implant or AWU4+ without

or get enyo
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#7 - 2012-10-23 11:13:16 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
I've seen a video of this guy using a MWD + Web + MSE + Blaster honour tackle Daredevil, the 90% web is enough to dictate range, he ganked them before they had a chance to realize they weren't pointed.


It was Kil2 - and it only works in 0.0 where people commit to fights and stay til the end. Faction warfare is filled with stabs and people who try to run at every opportunity.

To the OP: You can fly the DD however you want, but saying "No rails" takes the best frigate in the game and turns it into a glorified taranis. An afterburner will get stamped out by any MWD+point+rangeDPS frigate, which btw i fly because so many retards only fit AB's and 7km weapons these days.

The web is used to keep range on a daredevil, not get close. On bigger ships the web is to track. I think you want a megathron in frigate form, which fundamentally wont work.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2012-10-23 11:19:11 UTC
If you don't want to use rails use Blasters, range rigs and null

There is no point to having 90% webs if you're not going to use them.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#9 - 2012-10-23 16:19:11 UTC
http://rooksandkings.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=38952


And you could even improve that fit further.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#10 - 2012-10-23 22:30:28 UTC
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
http://rooksandkings.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=38952


And you could even improve that fit further.


That fit is ********.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-10-23 22:31:39 UTC
Daredevil is **************
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#12 - 2012-10-23 23:33:03 UTC
Vilnius Zar wrote:
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
http://rooksandkings.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=38952


And you could even improve that fit further.


That fit is ********.



ofc it is, but he asked for ab nos activetank. So he got ab nos active tank.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#13 - 2012-10-24 01:22:47 UTC
I've flown this ship a lot, and this was taken from someone who has flown it a crapload more than me.

For a neutron fit this is the most optimal you are likely to get, of course its a solo fit and wont stand up to blobs but if you can keep range its awesome...

[Daredevil, New Setup 1]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Internal Force Field Array I
Small 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Ambit Extension II
Small Hybrid Ambit Extension II
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I

you can change it to an ab fit if you feel the need but i dont feel the need for explaining how to do so, if you reallly need a specific low sec fit where you dont necessarily need to catch peeps then i can maybe help, just pm me with your specific intentions. for most, this is perfect...

the alternatives are plate fits. rail fits or generally gang fits, the last of which i cant help with!

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Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-10-24 03:03:24 UTC
Daredevil pvp: Fly with rails in pimpfit ... tie a guy down with your offgrid boosts and molest him outside his effective range.

Win win and be the king.
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
#15 - 2012-10-25 06:44:47 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
I've flown this ship a lot, and this was taken from someone who has flown it a crapload more than me.

For a neutron fit this is the most optimal you are likely to get, of course its a solo fit and wont stand up to blobs but if you can keep range its awesome...

[Daredevil, New Setup 1]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Internal Force Field Array I
Small 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Ambit Extension II
Small Hybrid Ambit Extension II
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I

you can change it to an ab fit if you feel the need but i dont feel the need for explaining how to do so, if you reallly need a specific low sec fit where you dont necessarily need to catch peeps then i can maybe help, just pm me with your specific intentions. for most, this is perfect...

the alternatives are plate fits. rail fits or generally gang fits, the last of which i cant help with!


Confirming this fit is probably the best out there, unfortunately it is outshined by an Enyo and Harpy which get similiar DPS but twice the EHP for 1/3 the cost.
Ray Celex
Crinum Lily
#16 - 2012-11-03 18:21:24 UTC
Cedo Nulli wrote:
Daredevil pvp: Fly with rails in pimpfit ... tie a guy down with your offgrid boosts and molest him outside his effective range.

Win win and be the king.

Agree. For neutron set, there are better choices like Enyo. Considering the EHP and DPS of other high-end frigs . Neut DD is hard to keep alive and DD is so expensive. Rail DD is the best choice which can make the most use of DD's feature , though CCP's original idea is a close-range monster and tank (See the description of DD,expecting to capture target and face-roll without orbit). In group gank, Neutron DD's maybe better however you can not do full dps because you cannot slow down. Mainly play the role of control
Ra1ne
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-11-04 01:24:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ra1ne
Maeltstome wrote:


it only works in 0.0 where people commit to fights and stay til the end. .


i must be in the wrong part of 0.0 then as very few these days stay for the fight. if things start going south for them most try and run. dualing honour seems to be very few and far between.

incidentally, i am liking the rail fit these days.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#18 - 2012-11-04 06:49:12 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
I've seen a video of this guy using a MWD + Web + MSE + Blaster honour tackle Daredevil, the 90% web is enough to dictate range, he ganked them before they had a chance to realize they weren't pointed.


It was Kil2 - and it only works in 0.0 where people commit to fights and stay til the end. Faction warfare is filled with stabs and people who try to run at every opportunity.

The only times I saw stab fitted ships was 1 smartbombing domi and Minmatar plex farmers (which are much rarer now) so I don't know where you get that idea

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-11-04 11:04:39 UTC
Shield fit it = win

brb
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#20 - 2012-11-06 13:22:00 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2037753#post2037753

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