EVE General Discussion

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Remember when I said, "keep going"? Thanks for complying.

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

I've a question for you: says who? Where in the rules does it say that you should refrain from certain aspects of the game just because you're on the CSM? Seriously, what's the logic behind this?

If the first words out of your mouth is "because scamming/griefing isn't moral!", then newsflash: eve isn't about being moral. The CSM isn't about being moral. The CSM is, now, about making CCP stop being pants-on-head ********, and that has ****-all to do with whether or not you're getting scammed because you're a dumbfuck.

EVE is a cold, hard and dangerous place. You want it represented by people who actually understand that, preferably before 0.0 stagnates so hard it's permanently deadlocked. If it hasn't already.

I can only imagine CCP shaking their heads at where this CSM faggottry has gone.

All of you involved (D3, Mitt, Vile Rat, Goons in general) come out looking like a bunch of morons who have no business representing anyone, in any respect.

And since when did Goons start doing their own sting operations to find out who broke the NDA's in the first place? Is it their job to "police" CCP policy? You guys don't care about botting, but you'll be damned if someone leaks some super serious CMS convo?

Well, call it what you want, sting, setup, what have you

So you telling me as chairman of the CSM, it's his job to make sure all CSM members are following the NDA they made to CCP?

Look, I'm not saying that if I were in that position and was privy to breaches of rules or whatever that I wouldn't do something about it, because I probably would. Because it's the rules we all agreed to and I expect everyone to follow the same one's that I'm following.

Which is exactly why I would spend the same amount of energy prosecuting botters, especially in my own alliance with the same ferocity as I would a NDA leaker, perhaps even moreso, nay, definitely moreso. What do you think hurts the Eve community more? Leaking of super secret NDA info, or botting?

Seems to me you guys pick and choose which "crimes" to prosecute. In this case, it serves you to "right" this wrong.

- 1. Too obvious.

I have no interest in what happens ... all that aside, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that the Goons framed you. It is certainly in their playbook.

So edgy and original.

The thing is Digi is one of perception, You say that many Goons care about the game and you may be right about that, the problem is with how the Goons present themselves to us "pubbies".

My perception of the Goons and many players I have talked to (not many by any stretch of the imagination) perceive the Goons to be a right bunch of knobs. Now more than likely this is wrong but thats what the general perception of the Goons is in my circle of EVE friends.

You guys might be out to save the EVE universe and someday we might even thank you for doing such a great job of it but at the moment like many posts on here have said..."Goons are posting Goons are lying" etc etc

From my own personal view you have a cadre of talented people surrounded by the biggest bunch of strange-uns going. You know what, it's great you lot stick up for yourselves but to what advantage?? Great you are your own masters withing your circles but to what end? alot of people just think "Goon" and automatically have already judged someone without even talking to them.

It's a problem of trust,perception and little bit of the boy who cried wolf and until that's addressed people are always going to think the worst. General things like calling people pubbies, it shows a kind of elitism and general looking down on the rest of us.
Now if that was Albert Einstein doing it I'd probably have to hold my hands up and say fair enough but when it's some scrout who got through on a by through SA forums and can just about read the "you've posted something, hopefully it's good" message
it tends to annoy people.

Your no better no worse than anyone else but the perception of who you are and what you stand for is what counts either negatively or positively.

A goon drama? In EVE??!

WTF?!

C.

I's in yo CSM, stealin yo sekrits...