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bldyannoyed

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#21 - 2011-10-18 20:21:52 UTC

How much is the AB actually worth?

[Vargur, New Setup 1]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Shield Boost Amplifier II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
[empty high slot]
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
[empty high slot]
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
[empty high slot]
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L

Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
Large Ancillary Current Router I

That setup has the same damage output and range but with a much stronger tank. The question is does the AB speed up missions enough that its worth potential warpouts cos frankly with next to no cap life i can think of missions that caould be pretty ugly.

Famble

Three's a Crowd

Likes received: 343

#22 - 2011-10-18 20:33:22 UTC | Edited by: Famble

[Vargur, My Vargur - Soon]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Dark Blood Medium Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800
Gist B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Projectile Burst Aerator I

This is what I plan on flying very soon as I'm training up the pre-reqs atm.

Certainly looks good on paper and is quite similar to the Maelstrom I've been flying for ages.

EFT omni damage profile shows a 1148 tank and 1000 DPS w/ 61 optimal + falloff using republic fleet ammo. Cap stable till the boost charges run out. All with my skills/implants. Swap a booster for an AB on easy missions.

If anyone ever looks at you and says,_ "Hold my beer, watch this,"_ you're probably going to want to pay attention.

Goose99

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#23 - 2011-10-18 20:35:32 UTC

bldyannoyed wrote:

AB is only for getting around. Vargur is a bit faster than most BS, but with marauder sig size being what it is, it won't be speed tanking anything. For stationary missions, it's okay to drop ab.

Mach is the only BS sized ship that can effectively speed tank, having both high enough speed and small enough sig. That is, unless you consider something weird, like Panther, which actually works if you have high drone skills.

stoicfaux

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#24 - 2011-10-18 21:34:18 UTC

bldyannoyed wrote:

How much is the AB actually worth?

Getting closer faster increases DPS.

With a falloff of 72km using T1/faction ammo, for every 1km closer to your target you get, you get a ~1% increase in DPS. 10km closer = 10% more DPS.

However, given that the NPCs are normally pseudo-MWD'ing to you, and that it takes about ~30 seconds for an AB'ing Vargur to accelerate to 90% velocity, and that your top speed is a bit over 400m/s, you probably aren't going to see a huge DPS gain.

By comparison, a MWD Mach with a top speed of 1500m/s should get up to 90% velocity in ~20 seconds, at which point it's closing the range very quickly and should see a significant DPS bump.

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