Crime & Punishment

Damn, OP... You're gonna be around for a while; you get Eve.

I usually see loads of fla5hy red in Ami, don't know if you still hang out that way Mail Lite, it's the one system on my usual roam that local is always more populated than anywhere else, infact im sure my slicer has had its paint scratched by you boys at some point, I never stay long for that reason lol

Didn't get much action in the couple hours I was on this weekend, thought twice about taking on a harby that was tanking some rats in a belt but kind of wished I had but when I went back he had warped off.

And had a proper bunny nose arse twitch moment last night, I had logged of earlier in Angur, about 12 jumps from home, so I went on to just fly back, only one in the station so I undocked and proceeded to the next gate, jumped through one or 2 gates with no problems, next system had around 28 in local, a few of them being some russians who I managed to kill one of awhile back, so I was a little bit wary, thought sod it I'll be fine, got to the next gate on route and they were all at it on the gate, spammed jump as soon as I could, the other side of the gate had around 40 on, so had a few nervous seconds as I was decloaked on the gate, aligned and warped off, was tempted to take a pot shot but thought better of it lol.

It does seem to be getting busy down that way but I'm going to have to get my harby out soon cos my slicer is running out of targets, I saw a navy geddon and a navy mega yesterday in lo-sec so people are getting braver.

The isk factor can be a problem, sadly. Myself, I have access to decent space in nullsec to print Isk if I need it, but I lost intertest in the PvE side of the game a long time ago. I know that many lowsec residents have an alt that they use to run missions in highsec, which I'd suggest. You could either get a second account or just stop training on this character and start training an alt on the account. If you plan on staying in BCs or smaller, all you'd really need is an alt that can run level 3s to keep yourself going... unless you're like me and spend most of your time looking at your wreck ;-)

As for things to draw people in to lowsec, CCP says they're redoing Faction Warfare and hopefully that will bring more targets, er, victims, er, customers... yes, customers, to lowsec. On Faction Warfare, you could have your corp join a militia, but you still run into the same problem when it comes to targets and if you start working with other members in the militia, I think that leads to blobs and blobs are bad.

*Waits for the comments about being a Goon and the irony of blobs being bad*

Fleeting up with you wouldn't be an option on my end, but if you have any questions, much like a few others have said... feel free to drop me a line in game.

Huh, I didn't even think of incursions... good call.

Hey there, great job getting into the game. My friends and I fly around Black Rise, members of the Gallente Militia (Though we've been pirates for far longer than we've been in FW). We have, on many occasions, given obviously new players money and training, and honestly some of our best pilots that we have now are those we simply talked to after we killed. A lot of people don't appreciate the benefit of trying to train new pilots who are willing to listen, even if you have just killed them, and it goes a long way to improving the game for everybody when people do this. I'm really impressed with the amount of helpful posts and stories of good people in this thread. (Seems to go counter to the general feeling of the forums lately but it's a good thing).

At any rate, the biggest problem with low sec piracy or pvp in general is having a source of income. Most people have alts that they generate money from, but if you're like me and only have a single character, it can be a big problem. I've been pvping for long enough that I'm at a stage now where I don't lose ships often at all, and eventually you'll get there, but for all the people saying FW is broken, it is actually an AMAZING way to make money while living in low sec.

First, gaining territory for your faction is kinda broken, but that's not where the money comes from. Having more targets that you can shoot at without getting destroyed by the gate guns is also awesome and very welcome, but the offset is that it's then inconvenient to go into the enemy faction's high security space. (it's totally doable, just more dangerous). The real money comes from doing Level 4 FW missions. To give you an idea, you can run Level 4's with two people (One speed tank in a fast ship, and one person in a damage dealing stealth bomber) with relative safety, and each FW mission you complete gives you roughly 30,000 LP. Loyalty Points you can then trade in for faction items, which you then sell on the market. A navy issue Dominix, for example, costs 150k LP for FW members, and sells for roughly 350mil isk. So, a few hours doing Lvl 4's and you get a lot of money.

For everything else that FW is broken for, the LVL 4 mission LP gain that you can then turn around into cash, as well as the ability to shoot lots of new targets without gate gun intervention, means that FW is a very good thing to look into.

Also, i know this was a lot to read, but mail me or convo me if you have any more questions :)

-Feral

Tell me about it, I've got it down to a fine art now mind you but it's still a pain in the ass! especially when the mission runners learn your name and immediately leave pocket as soon as you enter system.

Well I managed to kill a rifter last night on my travels but he was only a couple of months old, so I sent him a few million after the event and tried to convo him but he rejected it. Shame really as I was going to tell him he needs to be careful ratting in lo-sec etc but give him top marks for at least being out of hi-sec so early, my issue is that I think ANYONE is fair game when they are in lo-sec, as you never know if they are bait or new alt for some player, hope I haven't put him off by popping him though.

And this area of lo-sec is hotting up now, saw a small gang fight of 5-10 people on a gate near Ami, I'm going to have to get some corpies out so we die in a fire.

You will find most of nullsec is completely empty. It is possible to travel for hours and hours and not see anyone aside from some abandoned bubbles or the occasional ratter/cloaker. Every once in a while you might run into a 300 man blob going somewhere, but it's not likely.

OP if ur in amarr space, come to providence and pew pew its like the Wild West down there now!

Excellent thread indeed have been following this for quite some time. I've had the pleasure of actually fleeting up with these guys and their FC is quite knowledgeable to be a "noob" (not to be taken out of context). From where we roamed we hardly found anything esp in the FW systems (I believe we were in Minnie/Amarr FW Zone). My time has been a positive one always have a good time and hope to see them successful in their future in EVE-O. As always Fly Safe Saiyon :)