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[Winter] Market changes

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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#81 - 2012-10-19 12:51:14 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
there needs to be different models for the faction shuttles... a rattlesnake-appearance guristas shuttle would be awesome


Ha... hahahahaha... oh god. /psst check Duality tomorrow.


[:excitedchild]

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Kinroi Alari
Orbital Express LTD
Trystero GmbH
#82 - 2012-10-19 14:59:09 UTC

Question --
Should the four 'civilian' variants of the Empire shuttles appear here?
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ships:Miscellaneous:Shuttle

And ought the Apotheosis be here rather than under "Special Frigates"?
(I think the Zephyr and Echelon probably should stay under "Special Frigates", though.)
Ark Anhammar
GO' R0V
Pandemic Horde
#83 - 2012-10-20 00:38:22 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
there needs to be different models for the faction shuttles... a rattlesnake-appearance guristas shuttle would be awesome


Ha... hahahahaha... oh god. /psst check Duality tomorrow.

Has anyone checked Duality today (10/19) for the new shuttles models??
Jiji Hamin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2012-10-20 04:52:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jiji Hamin
1. It bugs me that the Mining Barge section of the market is broken down differently from any other type of ship. "Mining Barge" (from the top of "Ships") subdivides into "Mining Barges" and "Exhumers." Opening either or these gets you to "ORE," which gets you to the ships. In any other case, the original "Mining Barges" section would subdivide into "Standard Mining Barges" and "Advanced Mining Barges," the prior of which would open then to ORE and the latter would do "Exhumers" and then "ORE." It seems knit picky but tbh it bugs me a little and since there is a thread for market changes I figured I would mention it. Compare to either "Destroyers" or "Battlecruisers" to see that it is unprecedented to have it set up this way even when there is only one class of Advanced Ship available, so no argument there for doing it to streamline.

2. Can we have slot 1-5 implants reorganized? Can it break to "Standard" and "Faction" when you open "Attribute Enhancers?" Then, "Standard" subdivides to slots 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, which give you the actual lists of implants. (the way it is, but with faction removed) "Faction" will then subdivide to the various sets, Halo, Snake, Crystal, etc. The only question is whether you leave the Omegas with slot six or move them to these new categories. I would leave them where they are.

3. For the love of God, can we get some order for "Fleet Assistance Modules?"

4. Organizing the boosters might also be productive?
Kinroi Alari
Orbital Express LTD
Trystero GmbH
#85 - 2012-10-20 14:04:22 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Linking works fine for me. Whats wrong?


OK, just checked. Dragging and dropping to a chat window works fine, but highlighting the text "Civilian Caldari Shuttle" (etc) and using right click Auto Link > Item Type yields "Your query returned no legitimate item types. Please try again."
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#86 - 2012-10-21 07:45:31 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Blurtmaster wrote:
<3 You FoxFour for the CT fix!

Would it make any sense to switch Mission items from contracts to market?

I think so.


I found out recently that the control towers change missed the current Duality build, but it will be in the next one.

I will need to talk to some of the guys here at the office and see what they think about the whole mission items on market thing.


I'm not worried too much about the items needed to complete missions.

But can we at least get reward items from missions. The Epic arcs rewards eg: The Caldari epic arc rewards, Nugoehuvi synth blue pill booster and the Hyasyoda mobile laboratory.
I guess the other epic arcs have similar rewards at the end of them. Can they be added to the market as well?
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#87 - 2012-10-22 19:39:00 UTC
Kinroi Alari wrote:

Question --
Should the four 'civilian' variants of the Empire shuttles appear here?
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ships:Miscellaneous:Shuttle

And ought the Apotheosis be here rather than under "Special Frigates"?
(I think the Zephyr and Echelon probably should stay under "Special Frigates", though.)


No as they are mission rewards.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#88 - 2012-10-22 19:40:15 UTC
Kinroi Alari wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Linking works fine for me. Whats wrong?


OK, just checked. Dragging and dropping to a chat window works fine, but highlighting the text "Civilian Caldari Shuttle" (etc) and using right click Auto Link > Item Type yields "Your query returned no legitimate item types. Please try again."


I shall poke some people and see if I can find anything out about this.

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Kinroi Alari
Orbital Express LTD
Trystero GmbH
#89 - 2012-10-22 20:44:00 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
I shall poke some people and see if I can find anything out about this.


Many thanks!
Planktal
Kenshao Industries
#90 - 2012-10-23 02:41:55 UTC
From what I've seen on Duality of the Market I think these changes are long overdue. The Market is more user friendly with these changes. Now to have faction tower BPCs drop again...

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GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#91 - 2012-10-23 09:53:28 UTC
King Rothgar wrote:
On the topic of market changes, can we please get a t2 only filter for the ship equipment section? It's really annoying having to scroll down 15 million assorted t1 nano platings to find the standard t2 adaptive nano membrane that 99.999999% of us use. Alternatively, place t2 mods at the very top of the list since they are the most commonly bought/sold/used. It's just one of those little annoyances that drives me and everyone else up the wall.


Quoting this for attention, having a T2 subheading similar to faction/deadspace/officer subheadings would be really goddamn useful.
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#92 - 2012-10-23 10:40:37 UTC
Jiji Hamin wrote:
1. It bugs me that the Mining Barge section of the market is broken down differently from any other type of ship. "Mining Barge" (from the top of "Ships") subdivides into "Mining Barges" and "Exhumers." Opening either or these gets you to "ORE," which gets you to the ships. In any other case, the original "Mining Barges" section would subdivide into "Standard Mining Barges" and "Advanced Mining Barges," the prior of which would open then to ORE and the latter would do "Exhumers" and then "ORE." It seems knit picky but tbh it bugs me a little and since there is a thread for market changes I figured I would mention it. Compare to either "Destroyers" or "Battlecruisers" to see that it is unprecedented to have it set up this way even when there is only one class of Advanced Ship available, so no argument there for doing it to streamline.


Update 2012/10/23:

  • Updated the Mining Barges section of the market and moved all the ships up one level. Since ORE are the only manufactures of these ships there was no need to break them down into faction.


I didn't change the name from Exhumers to Advanced Mining Barges as we only have the one class of advanced mining barge. If we ever add more we can revisit this. :)

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2012-10-23 13:09:55 UTC
Quote:
If we ever add more


i take that as a confirmation for new mining barges in the pipeline Cool
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#94 - 2012-10-23 13:14:59 UTC
Gilbaron wrote:
Quote:
If we ever add more


i take that as a confirmation for new mining barges in the pipeline Cool


/facepalm

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#95 - 2012-10-23 13:45:19 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Gilbaron wrote:
Quote:
If we ever add more


i take that as a confirmation for new mining barges in the pipeline Cool


/facepalm


black hole mining? (With the potential to get bumped into its gravitational pull, forcing the miner into wormhole space? Twisted)

sun plasma mining? (Super-high temperature resistant barges would be amazing to look at, I'm sure, and have like 90% base thermal resist as an interesting bonus in relation to their application)

Comet mining?

While we're theorycrafting, i think terraforming would be an interesting profession for an eve player, especially with the new introduction of dust and planetary warfare...

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2012-10-23 16:23:03 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Gilbaron wrote:
Quote:
If we ever add more


i take that as a confirmation for new mining barges in the pipeline Cool


/facepalm


things i love about eve:

devs are actually allowed to post stuff like this on the forums
Jiji Hamin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2012-10-23 23:27:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Jiji Hamin
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Jiji Hamin wrote:
1. It bugs me that the Mining Barge section of the market is broken down differently from any other type of ship. "Mining Barge" (from the top of "Ships") subdivides into "Mining Barges" and "Exhumers." Opening either or these gets you to "ORE," which gets you to the ships. In any other case, the original "Mining Barges" section would subdivide into "Standard Mining Barges" and "Advanced Mining Barges," the prior of which would open then to ORE and the latter would do "Exhumers" and then "ORE." It seems knit picky but tbh it bugs me a little and since there is a thread for market changes I figured I would mention it. Compare to either "Destroyers" or "Battlecruisers" to see that it is unprecedented to have it set up this way even when there is only one class of Advanced Ship available, so no argument there for doing it to streamline.


Update 2012/10/23:

  • Updated the Mining Barges section of the market and moved all the ships up one level. Since ORE are the only manufactures of these ships there was no need to break them down into faction.


I didn't change the name from Exhumers to Advanced Mining Barges as we only have the one class of advanced mining barge. If we ever add more we can revisit this. :)


thanks for replying to my comment! are you going to streamline destroyers and BCs the same way then for the sake of consistency?

edit: oh and also industrials/transports?
Luc Chastot
#98 - 2012-10-27 07:53:45 UTC
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
King Rothgar wrote:
On the topic of market changes, can we please get a t2 only filter for the ship equipment section? It's really annoying having to scroll down 15 million assorted t1 nano platings to find the standard t2 adaptive nano membrane that 99.999999% of us use. Alternatively, place t2 mods at the very top of the list since they are the most commonly bought/sold/used. It's just one of those little annoyances that drives me and everyone else up the wall.


Quoting this for attention, having a T2 subheading similar to faction/deadspace/officer subheadings would be really goddamn useful.


CCP FoxFour, I'd like to bring this to your attention. This would drastically reduce the time older payers spend in the market.

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#99 - 2012-10-27 15:16:24 UTC
Luc Chastot wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
King Rothgar wrote:
On the topic of market changes, can we please get a t2 only filter for the ship equipment section? It's really annoying having to scroll down 15 million assorted t1 nano platings to find the standard t2 adaptive nano membrane that 99.999999% of us use. Alternatively, place t2 mods at the very top of the list since they are the most commonly bought/sold/used. It's just one of those little annoyances that drives me and everyone else up the wall.


Quoting this for attention, having a T2 subheading similar to faction/deadspace/officer subheadings would be really goddamn useful.


CCP FoxFour, I'd like to bring this to your attention. This would drastically reduce the time older payers spend in the market.


I doubt it, but there are a few categories that are really big and could maybe use some breaking down. What if categories like Resistance Plating and Energized Plating were broken down into damage type?

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

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Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#100 - 2012-10-27 15:34:00 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Luc Chastot wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
King Rothgar wrote:
On the topic of market changes, can we please get a t2 only filter for the ship equipment section? It's really annoying having to scroll down 15 million assorted t1 nano platings to find the standard t2 adaptive nano membrane that 99.999999% of us use. Alternatively, place t2 mods at the very top of the list since they are the most commonly bought/sold/used. It's just one of those little annoyances that drives me and everyone else up the wall.


Quoting this for attention, having a T2 subheading similar to faction/deadspace/officer subheadings would be really goddamn useful.


CCP FoxFour, I'd like to bring this to your attention. This would drastically reduce the time older payers spend in the market.


I doubt it, but there are a few categories that are really big and could maybe use some breaking down. What if categories like Resistance Plating and Energized Plating were broken down into damage type?

Maybe. I like the Tech2 check box though

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