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Klarissa Knight
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2012-10-22 17:43:03 UTC
Elise Randolph wrote:
Oh baby baby

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Oh baby baby
Get up on THIS
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#62 - 2012-10-22 17:43:12 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
I'm not really convinced on the connection between FW and rising PLEX prices. Unless it meant that there were a few hundred new accounts created solely for the farming of FW LP and they were powered with PLEX, which may have increased demand enough on PLEX purchases to drive up costs.

I think the simpler explanation is that the poor economic climate in the real world means fewer people are willing to splurge on buying PLEX/GTC to sell in-game for ISK. Combine that with the new features that CCP rolls out like a re-sculpt for PLEX, new AUR items, and other things that can be bought with PLEX and you have too much demand compared to the supply.

(And maybe toss in a little speculator action.)

CCP has alot of data. For example, they can tell how many people were:

Not using PLEX pre Inferno,
Joined FW with main or alts,
Started using PLEX soon after.

So if they say they see a connection, chances are they got the data.

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Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#63 - 2012-10-22 17:43:54 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Shepard Book wrote:
I was looking forward to the re positioning of the capture / defending nodes in the faction ware fare plexes. Did I miss that in this blog? I did not see it.


Yup, all of the stuff in the linked forum posts by Ytterbium is still in the plan, with the exception of the "Any defender anywhere in the plex stops capture" thing which the community correctly pointed out to us wasn't going to be a positive change.


Awesome on both counts. Thx
Amantus
Drexciyan Sea Unit
SPACE DETROIT
#64 - 2012-10-22 17:44:49 UTC
now where did i put my butt ointment?
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#65 - 2012-10-22 17:45:56 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
Good news everybody! Some of the Factional Warfare changes have been deemed ready for prime time and will be going out ahead of schedule.


As be of the many abusing your **** up, deemed ready a WHOLE month before initial release. I can see this rushed pile of shite going well, I'd rather you just disabled the whole tier system the now and release on the planned date.
Ambo
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#66 - 2012-10-22 17:46:03 UTC
Great stuff. Extra awesome for really listening to the players. I think once I get over my xcom obsession, I may be back in eve :)
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#67 - 2012-10-22 17:46:26 UTC
There was certainly massive levels of dialogue. Have you seen the threads?

And the only thing wrong right now is that PVP has gone from OMGWTF MASSIVE levels to OMGWTF incredible levels lately. Kills/corp are still over 2x times they were before May. So, sorry to disappoint. INFERNO WAS GREAT for FW.

But otherwise I agree a bit. Farmers will move to defensive plexing. Front is going to stagnate a bit - but it's been pretty stagnant lately anyways - where it counts. I think it will be easier for small groups to hold space because defensive farmers will do most of their defensive work for them, but it may be tougher for small groups to take a system for the same reason.


Veshta Yoshida wrote:

Thank you for vindicating all my doom'n'gloom. Saddens me on the behalf of FW that I was not proven wrong though Sad
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2012-10-22 17:50:30 UTC
Ah how not playing for a few months except setting skills changes perspectives. There I was thinking plex prices were high because of Incursions. Roll
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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-10-22 17:55:50 UTC
Finally.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#70 - 2012-10-22 18:00:35 UTC
Gibbo5771 wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
Good news everybody! Some of the Factional Warfare changes have been deemed ready for prime time and will be going out ahead of schedule.


As be of the many abusing your **** up, deemed ready a WHOLE month before initial release. I can see this rushed pile of shite going well, I'd rather you just disabled the whole tier system the now and release on the planned date.


Oh what irony.

Instead of drooling words into the forums as fast as you can type, perhaps you should proofread *your* work before releasing it, and let CCP worry about testing their work.

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Kuro Yami
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-10-22 18:01:50 UTC
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb3trmLIXj1r167ek.gif

Well maybe now people will do FW to pvp like they are supposed to.
I tried a bit of farming myself to see if I could get a cnr (600k LP) only to be told my 200k LP could be worth over a billion isk... Way to much isk in farming right now so I welcome this surprise update.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#72 - 2012-10-22 18:02:48 UTC

So, tomorrow, they are only changing with the LP stuffs..... but not changing plex ship restrictions yet???

I'd love to see the ship restrictions altered, the sooner the better...
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#73 - 2012-10-22 18:05:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarnak Wulf
I read it quick twice. They aren't changing plex limitations yet if I read it right?

Edit: thx for making it a surprise Big smile
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2012-10-22 18:06:20 UTC
One downtime notice would have been sensible to give factions time to panic flip and provoke some fights.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2012-10-22 18:07:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
CCP Phantom wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
To implement this earlier is biggest fuckup CCP can make in FW ever
If that is the case, then it would be great to hear why it is so in your opinion. Just saying that you think something would be bad doesn't help our developers to figure out eventual issues.
Because his "side" won't be able to cash-out before tomorrow's patch.

Farmer tears. Awesome.
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#76 - 2012-10-22 18:07:41 UTC
What a nice birthday gift! Game of Drones, you rock!
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#77 - 2012-10-22 18:08:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Veshta Yoshida
X Gallentius wrote:
....Front is going to stagnate a bit ...

A bit .. did you read the same blog as I did, they are doubling (2x) buffers/upgrades and decreasing bleed by a whopping 80% .. that is a factor ten compared to current, Have fun plexing that down when defender gets points for being AFK on top Smile

Systems held after DT will not flip in the foreseeable future, will be nigh impossible to do, so map tomorrow will be as static as null has been for the past year+ (excepting renter/sheep changes).

As for pew increasing .. I checked the data and the spike didn't really happen until the farm was running which means that it is millionaire-fights (as opposed to bum-fights before) .. all FW boards should move the digit in the kill value one or two places to the left. ... hahahahahah Smile
Personally never took pleasure in killing, was purely out of service (RP) and quite frankly see no point in it if it has zero effect on anything which is what infinite ISK (effectively) means. War without recognized costs is just a slaughter (ref: WWI).

What scares and annoys me is that this is supposedly the last iterative pass for the time being, tweaks here and there probably but what they push on the morrow is what you have to live with for the next two or three years .. not really seeing it.

By the way, CCP: Are you going to develop the storyline at all? Has been completely frozen for ages.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#78 - 2012-10-22 18:11:47 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fozzie
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
....Front is going to stagnate a bit ...

A bit .. did you read the same blog as I did, they are doubling (2x) buffers/upgrades and decreasing bleed by a whopping 80% .. that is a factor ten compared to current, Have fun plexing that down when defender gets points for being AFK on top Smile

Systems held after DT will not flip in the foreseeable future, will be nigh impossible to do, so map tomorrow will be as static as null has been for the past year+ (excepting renter/sheep changes).

As for pew increasing .. I checked the data and the spike didn't really happen until the farm was running which means that it is millionaire-fights (as opposed to bum-fights before) .. all FW boards should move the digit in the kill value one or two places to the left. ... hahahahahah Smile
Personally never took pleasure in killing, was purely out of service (RP) and quite frankly see no point in it if it has zero effect on anything which is what infinite ISK (effectively) means. War without recognized costs is just a slaughter (ref: WWI).

What scares and annoys me is that this is supposedly the last iterative pass for the time being, tweaks here and there probably but what they push on the morrow is what you have to live with for the next two or three years .. not really seeing it.

By the way, CCP: Are you going to develop the storyline at all? Has been completely frozen for ages.


Tomorrow is definitely not the last FW patch in the near future. We're still releasing another set of changes in Retribution at the very least.

And as for the storyline, all I can tell you is that I'm very excited about what I know is coming, and I'm not privy to all of the secret plans.

Game Designer | Team Five-0

Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-10-22 18:11:47 UTC
Hmm. Seems the only posting the CSM does now is to cheerlead devblogs.

At least we know the CSM is doing their job marketing the game.
Audrey Koshka
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2012-10-22 18:13:35 UTC
Hans had made a suggestion at one point that PvP kills pay out at the max multiplier regardless of current faction tier to reward pewpew, any word on that possibility?