Ships & Modules

Same method, same skills, no implants a Fenrir does the same journey in:

Jita - Rens:
1:41:39

Rens - Jita:
1:42:36

Average:
1:42:08
(times measured from undock to Autopilot Disabled).

Though the Fenrir caps out at 900,000 m3 it does save 20 minutes (almost exactly) on a 25 jump run - 48 seconds per jump may not seem like much but it's worth considering...

Thanks for the data point!

Does the Fenrir warp at the same speed as the Charon? 0.7 AU/s? So that it's only its STL speed, 15 km to gate, that makes the difference?

I often travel with a full hold, needing to make several long trips hauling ores or tritanium or similar low-value stuff, so for me those extra 80k m3 may be worth the slower AFK travel speed, but obviously for other traders who mainly travel with their Charons half empty, switching to a Fenrir makes sense.

Same speed in warp so the difference is in sub-light top speed and in agility for the alignment (though that's a lesser variable).

Though for many folk travelling with a full freighter it's often one of several loads, the freighter is full because it's not large enough to have free space. If the load is large enough then, with a 40 minute saving on the round trip the Fenrir may work out better even then... depending on the size of the load.

By my reckonning the Fenrir can do six round trips between Rens and Jita in the time it takes for the Charon to do five (that's 20 hours so it's not generally relevant to normal gameplay but there are odd occasions where it might be) meaning that in that time the Charon has moved (980,000m3 x 5) = 4.9 million cubic meters of stuff while the Fenrir has moved (900,000 x 6) = 5.4 million.
That's an extreme example of course - if you're moving that much stuff that far then you're probably better off doing it with six freighters rather than in six trips (which is where people like Red Frog can make their money) but if your load is a more reasonable 1.5 million cubic meters both ships must make two trips and the saving on the Fenrir is an hour and twenty minutes - which might be nearly enough for a trip to Amarr and back.

You loose more time on approach.

The warp speed only really helps in big systems, you will ALWAYS have to burn that 15km.

.....pretty sure the Vigil is actually fastest it has a hull based speed bonus, no buttons required.

Raptor with T2 nanofibers and T1 hyper rigs, Jita to Rens, looks like 31 minutes, but I didn't make a return trip, and I was AFK when my ship reached it, so the arrival time is based on the log. I'll do a Jita-Rens-Jita round trip later, to confirm the 31 (62) minutes. Don't take the 31 minutes too seriously until I or someone else confirms it.

Off the top of my head, crusader has 4 lows and gets 13 au/s with 2 warp speed rigs. The gallente one would be very similarly fast with 4 lows as well, not sure of relative speeds of the two.

Double post...

I would never do it...........but i read somewhere:

- set your ships propulsion module hot-key to the F1 button on your keyboard
- set destination, undock, warp manually to the first out gate
- during warp engage your autopilot
- put a weight on your F1 key on the keyboard ((''button-jamming'')) so its held down permanently and activating your prop module
- Profit.

This worked a long time ago. Last time I tried it it was not working anymore (i also read that, never would do it :) )

Yes, there is an interceptor that's best.

First of all, you want the Inteceptor sub-class that can do 13.5 AU/sec un-rigged.

Within this class, the Caldari version (Raptor) has the slowest sublight speed. That's the one I fly, though, because I don't have Racial Frigate 5 for the other 3 races yet, and it's not a huge priority for me.

Of the other 3 racial versions, 2 Interceptors are slightly faster in terms of sublight speed, and then there's one, IIRC the Gallente one, that's faster again. The difference beween the Raptor and this one is that the Raptor does 415 m/s with no skillz, and the best version does 450 m/s. The best version also has 4 LOW slots while the Caldari version only has 3, although it's arguable whether a 4th Overdrive Injector II makes much of a difference. I calculated it a while ago, and I think I found that it'd increase sublight by under 10 m/s.



I'm probably talked about using Blockade Runners, earlier in this thread, as being a good option if you want to haul medium'ish amounts of stuff around. With the expansion changes, that's no longer the case. With your cargo hold being unscannable, the risk of being suicide ganked is too high.