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Fedora 17 - intel chipset video laptop - yes/no?

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Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#1 - 2012-10-21 22:53:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ursula Thrace
in short, i've been keeping up with (from time to time) linux and eve. from what i've learned, intel onboard video and eve do not play well together. mix in fedora 17...

what do i have?

yes or no? is it even worth pursuing or should i invest in a new laptop?
Kontalaa
New Eden Trading Association
#2 - 2012-10-22 10:02:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Kontalaa
depends. if you graphics-card supports shader-model 3 you can give it a try..

but dont expect much. ill guess it will be about 4-5 frames at best.

"Intel onboard video" is mostly no graphics-card, but an exended cpu doing graphics-calculations.. but that can change from model to model.

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If it runs under windows it sure will be under linux. Maybe faster, maybe slower .. but about as good as on win.
Nebu Retski
Lead Farmers
#3 - 2012-10-22 11:56:24 UTC
Kontalaa wrote:
If it runs under windows it sure will be under linux. Maybe faster, maybe slower .. but about as good as on win.

Nope that's incorrect. My laptop is able to run it under windows, but ever since Incarna I haven't been able to get it to run on Linux. Although I have to admit that over the last 6 months I haven't bothered much to get it running as my laptop (on board intel) isn't particularly powerful so the game isn't really playable when undocking.

To the OP, see if you can try to get eve running on your laptop. If you can get it to run, then you should have a similar performance, if you get the right settings for wine/eve, as in windows. Investing in a new laptop pretty much comes down to can you play eve at an acceptable level (either in Linux or Windows). If you can already play it at an acceptable level in windows then I don't see why you would bother with buying a new laptop just for playing eve on linux.
Seras Victoria Egivand
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-11-13 07:38:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Seras Victoria Egivand
Ursula Thrace wrote:
in short, i've been keeping up with (from time to time) linux and eve. from what i've learned, intel onboard video and eve do not play well together. mix in fedora 17...

what do i have?

yes or no? is it even worth pursuing or should i invest in a new laptop?



what video card cause a intel 965 aka x3100 will play it.. but your definitions of playable and real world could be different.

intel chipset under linux is decent mainly do to intel provides tons of open source support. anything thats old will run but slow do to the fact shader 3 support on older cards seems to be incomplete (windows and linux both). There is some hacked binaries that they used for windows you may be able to substitute under linux at least for wine so it could make your grapics a tad better. and at least registry hacking so it runs sharer 3 in software and not hardware depending on your intel gpu. Yes under some grapics cards enabling software mode actually gave 20-60 percent increase in games under some intel cards but not knowing which card it will be hard to help u.

Ill pull out my old core 2 laptop with ubuntu on it and see what i can do.

Last time i checked i could pull 20 fps on it


Which i mean registery hack i mean you might have to add some crap to the dx 3d config under your wine registry.
Slavn
Flying Scissors
#5 - 2012-11-14 00:41:09 UTC
My own experience is using Debian Unstable, so some things may vary.

EvE is playable on lowest settings on an Intel 3000 HD, at a FULL 60fps, with one major caveat; All of the ships when zoomed in have rays coming off of them. If you can deal with the your ship looking like a herd of glitchy porcupine, then yes, it's very very very playable.
Seras Victoria Egivand
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-11-14 06:08:43 UTC
Slavn wrote:
My own experience is using Debian Unstable, so some things may vary.

EvE is playable on lowest settings on an Intel 3000 HD, at a FULL 60fps, with one major caveat; All of the ships when zoomed in have rays coming off of them. If you can deal with the your ship looking like a herd of glitchy porcupine, then yes, it's very very very playable.



install dri 3d and change the advanced options to wipe back frame buffer fixes that.