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Problem with AFK Cloaking?
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#1 - 2012-10-20 17:16:25 UTC
As title. I'm noticing a lot of people having problems with AFK cloaking, but it seems a bit silly to me to be scared of a ship that is both AFK and that takes serious penalties for equipping a cloak (or is a Recon, so can't gank well).

So... what have AFK cloakers done to you, and why is that a problem that has to be fixed with mechanic/balance changes? (And what changes?)

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#2 - 2012-10-20 17:20:09 UTC
I remember when cloaks were first introduced, omg the change it made. It was awesome fyi.

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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-10-20 17:22:51 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
As title. I'm noticing a lot of people having problems with AFK cloaking,


Doubt that there are "a lot". Many ppl in forums rage about cloaking. Some rage about others being afk. A few rage about both in combination. Overall there are thousands of players in EvE, afk haters & cloaking haters are like... 20? Maybe 50?




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#4 - 2012-10-20 17:25:57 UTC
AFK cloaking interferes with botters in nullsec, as well as AFK/carebears in nullsec. The fact that those groups of people complain about AFK cloaking is very strong proof that AFK cloaking is a good thing! Smile

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#5 - 2012-10-20 17:29:40 UTC
James 315 wrote:
AFK cloaking interferes with botters in nullsec, as well as AFK/carebears in nullsec. The fact that those groups of people complain about AFK cloaking is very strong proof that AFK cloaking is a good thing! Smile

Hm... aren't you opposed to all AFK play, which includes AFK cloaking?

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Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#6 - 2012-10-20 17:31:31 UTC
I have never been killed by someone who came out of afk cloaked in our system. I have never even been in a system where one has killed someone. I have killed 2 in my time in nullsec.

I can't fathom why anyone thinks they're a problem. If they end up in your system, just move next door. If your too scared to move from one system to another then you shouldn't be out in nullsec. If they follow you into the new system you know they're not afk. In which case, chase them.

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Imports Plus
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-10-20 17:33:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Imports Plus
How am I supposed to mine in my RAGNAROK with a cloaker in system? He may have a cyno fitted with a gang nearby waiting to gank me!











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Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-10-20 17:34:20 UTC
I am your afk cloak... when I raid your hostile space, I cloak in your sanctums, I ravage your safespots, I pierce through your wormholes, all in with combat scanner and afk cloak

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Spacerats
#9 - 2012-10-20 17:34:59 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
As title. I'm noticing a lot of people having problems with AFK cloaking, but it seems a bit silly to me to be scared of a ship that is both AFK and that takes serious penalties for equipping a cloak (or is a Recon, so can't gank well).

So... what have AFK cloakers done to you, and why is that a problem that has to be fixed with mechanic/balance changes? (And what changes?)


You noticed that, eh? Must have been the bazillion other threads about this topic. Roll

Anyway, it doesn't matter how much a cloak gimps your fit, all it need for ganking in null is a cyno beacon.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#10 - 2012-10-20 17:37:39 UTC
So... what I'm gathering is that, since cynos are the problem with AFK cloaking, then the problem rests with the strength and proliferation of capital/supercapital ships, not with the act of AFK cloaking itself.

Correct?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2012-10-20 17:41:24 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

Hm... aren't you opposed to all AFK play, which includes AFK cloaking?


Well, they arnt doing anything so technically they arnt playing so it should be fine.
Darrian Sertan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-10-20 17:41:32 UTC
I seem to remember reading in another thread a while back that being AFK was a valid form of game play.

Seems to me that playing the game would require being at the keyboard or cloaked if you don't want to be an overly tempting target.

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Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-10-20 17:42:07 UTC
Imports Plus wrote:
How am I supposed to mine in my RAGNAROK with a cloaker in system? He may have a cyno fitted with a gang nearby waiting to gank me!

It happens


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Doomheim
#14 - 2012-10-20 17:42:25 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
So... what I'm gathering is that, since cynos are the problem with AFK cloaking, then the problem rests with the strength and proliferation of capital/supercapital ships, not with the act of AFK cloaking itself.

Correct?


If I am ratting my Archon I do not care about a single enemy in system. If that enemy can drop 3 Nyx's on my Archon then he becomes a problem. Does he or does he not have a cyno? Is he a covert cyno with a blops gang? I do not know... best to pos up aaaaaaaaaaahh!
Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-10-20 17:43:11 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
James 315 wrote:
AFK cloaking interferes with botters in nullsec, as well as AFK/carebears in nullsec. The fact that those groups of people complain about AFK cloaking is very strong proof that AFK cloaking is a good thing! Smile

Hm... aren't you opposed to all AFK play, which includes AFK cloaking?


AFK cloaking isn't play. I don't think even James thinks every body needs to sign out of new eden when ever not at the keyboard.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#16 - 2012-10-20 17:43:14 UTC
Darrian Sertan wrote:
The game is the same for everyone. However, not everyone plays the same. Some are sheep while others are wolves.

So who are the sheep in your lovely analogy?

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Darrian Sertan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-10-20 17:45:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Darrian Sertan
Anyone not willing to protect or defend themselves.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#18 - 2012-10-20 17:45:56 UTC
i am a big fan of cloaking dont know why you have to be afk or is that just your assumption?

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#19 - 2012-10-20 17:47:51 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
i am a big fan of cloaking dont know why you have to be afk or is that just your assumption?

She looks quite AFK in that picture to me. I think the cloak gets in the way or something.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#20 - 2012-10-20 17:49:04 UTC
Darrian Sertan wrote:
The game is the same for everyone. However, not everyone plays the same. Some are sheep while others are wolves.


or you can be like me and be both...

its called a cyno mod never undock without one...

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