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Duality Open Period - 19/10 to 23/10

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Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#61 - 2012-10-20 08:34:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Hannott Thanos
Noticing a lot of bugs on Duality. However, the changes are AWESOME. The people whining about the order of shield armor structure on the GUI needs a chillpill. After the first shot you know how it works instantly, and it looks insanely cool. The new sounds for the turrets are also super sweet.

Eve just keeps getting better and better with each expansion.

while (CurrentSelectedTarget.Status == ShipStatus.Alive) {

     _myShip.FireAllGuns(CurrentSelectedTarget);

}

Seleucus Ontuas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2012-10-20 10:26:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Seleucus Ontuas
The new location of the active modules on a target in the hud is currently obscuring the distance the target is to you.

Also, I have to ask; the new animations for the guns, is that going to stay? What I mean by this is that before there was a visible color difference between blasters shooting Null and blasters shooting Void. Right now, its all the same green color.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#63 - 2012-10-20 10:29:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
Old notification bar is just where you want to position the ships you are attacking. What?

Hud flash icon is to small. Damage hit damage received scroll below the icon would be better.

In range icon gets lost when you target someone needs to me moved to outside the health bars after targeted or be brighter.

Will the green icon around my drones change to red if it is getting shot please.

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See you around the universe.

tgl3
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2012-10-20 11:02:15 UTC
Seleucus Ontuas wrote:
The new location of the active modules on a target in the hud is currently obscuring the distance the target is to you.

Also, I have to ask; the new animations for the guns, is that going to stay? What I mean by this is that before there was a visible color difference between blasters shooting Null and blasters shooting Void. Right now, its all the same green color.

This is the same right now with lasers, so probably unintentional
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#65 - 2012-10-20 12:40:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
TIDI is active in most systemsWhat? 26%

Ore hold persits even when in a ship that does not have an ore hold.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

shackdavid
Disasterpiece LTD
Pandemic Horde
#66 - 2012-10-20 13:33:40 UTC
TIDI is now at 10%, please sort out, can test systems like this :(
Blue Harrier
#67 - 2012-10-20 13:36:11 UTC
Back again for my second test this morning;

Still nothing is rendering in space, no ships, gates, nothing.

Also TiDi is running in all my local systems, most are at 56% but some are running at 26%, odd as I am the only one in the system.

I took on a L4 mission to test the new AI and can confirm it seems to be working, I lost 3 drones before I was able to recall them (with TiDi running things take time to update and they were dead before the recall notice was activated). Shame I can’t replace them as my local market is empty.

Running the mission was ‘not fun’;
1, I was unable to see any ships attacking me

2, The new targeting reticules seem too big and obscured the screen too much (without ships to compare them against this might be an unfair judgement).

3, As I am red/green colour blind the faded colour (I assume red), of the target reticule is very hard for me to see, it might be useful to have a colour blind mode with a change of colour for people like myself. After all we don’t always need red as a warning colour as long as we (as in myself) know this is the warning.
My son who was watching the test also pointed out there was a colour change from I think yellow or green to red but again this was not apparent to me (could someone confirm this please).

4. The targeted ship icon that displays when you target a ship, (I stack mine vertically), also seem a bit big, this could be a false impression compared to the old style square target but it does seem bigger.

5, From the above statement, the target icon has three segments that I assume show shields, armour and structure. But they seem to be arranged anticlockwise, I would have thought clockwise would have resulted in a more ‘logical’ train of thought and a more speedy ‘glance to check’ display.

6, I was flying a Drake with missiles loaded and had some really odd results when firing, missiles would explode nowhere near the targeted ship and sometimes exploded around my own ship but cause damage to the targeted ship.

7, Incoming missiles only appeared at random and other type of incoming ordinance was like the ships invisible, so I could not see what they were or where coming from.

8, Clicking the missile fire button resulted in no audio feedback (i.e. no click sound) also no visual feedback of a colour change to show the button was pressed.

9, because of the TiDi reloading my missiles seemed very odd, first there was no corresponding flashing of the icons to confirm the re-load, then the TiDi took so long to action it I started clicking each icon separately (panic mode) and then the icons started to flash and change to the launcher when they actually re-loaded.
Which did the re-load, your guess is as good as mine.

So I know this is a test build, shame we have very little to actually test.


"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#68 - 2012-10-20 15:06:52 UTC
Blaster II's on an atrion have no sound and visual effect is missing.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#69 - 2012-10-20 15:12:15 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Goliath
Guys, sorry you've all been posting and not getting any feedback, but we had a company day out yesterday and I imagine most devs are a little fragile today. Keep it coming and thanks for your efforts so far. We're working towards getting TiDi disabled on Duality so that this doesn't continue affecting your testing.


EDIT: For those saying they don't see a difference in AI, it won't be any different if you're the only one on grid and you're not using drones. We encourage people to team up and run some missions or plexes together, in different sizes of ship, and see what happens!

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#70 - 2012-10-20 15:22:01 UTC
bah... stupid work... i should get this up and running in the next 6-7 hours then io'll do a bunch of missions in ratting drone boats...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#71 - 2012-10-20 16:35:03 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Guys, sorry you've all been posting and not getting any feedback, but we had a company day out yesterday and I imagine most devs are a little fragile today. Keep it coming and thanks for your efforts so far. We're working towards getting TiDi disabled on Duality so that this doesn't continue affecting your testing.


EDIT: For those saying they don't see a difference in AI, it won't be any different if you're the only one on grid and you're not using drones. We encourage people to team up and run some missions or plexes together, in different sizes of ship, and see what happens!


Nice to see you censored out my post.
Winder why?
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#72 - 2012-10-20 17:37:24 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Guys, sorry you've all been posting and not getting any feedback, but we had a company day out yesterday and I imagine most devs are a little fragile today. Keep it coming and thanks for your efforts so far. We're working towards getting TiDi disabled on Duality so that this doesn't continue affecting your testing.


EDIT: For those saying they don't see a difference in AI, it won't be any different if you're the only one on grid and you're not using drones. We encourage people to team up and run some missions or plexes together, in different sizes of ship, and see what happens!


Ummm...the vast majority of mission runners, who want to grind ISK, don't team up with people.
I was in Eve UNI and ran countless missions with people that ran the gamut from noobs to people with superb in-game skills and experience.

Invariably, a person running solo makes far more ISK / hour.

Further, according to YOUR words, I am sure people will be thrilled to know that if you can somehow run a drone boat, the devs now expect that running solo is no longer an option.

Finally, I am in the midst of the 1.38G download, but I full expect that my account won't be activated for testing.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#73 - 2012-10-20 18:11:47 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Guys, sorry you've all been posting and not getting any feedback, but we had a company day out yesterday and I imagine most devs are a little fragile today. Keep it coming and thanks for your efforts so far. We're working towards getting TiDi disabled on Duality so that this doesn't continue affecting your testing.


EDIT: For those saying they don't see a difference in AI, it won't be any different if you're the only one on grid and you're not using drones. We encourage people to team up and run some missions or plexes together, in different sizes of ship, and see what happens!


Nice to see you censored out my post.
Winder why?


Not a single post of yours in this thread has an edited flag on it. What are you talking about?

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#74 - 2012-10-20 18:14:42 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Guys, sorry you've all been posting and not getting any feedback, but we had a company day out yesterday and I imagine most devs are a little fragile today. Keep it coming and thanks for your efforts so far. We're working towards getting TiDi disabled on Duality so that this doesn't continue affecting your testing.


EDIT: For those saying they don't see a difference in AI, it won't be any different if you're the only one on grid and you're not using drones. We encourage people to team up and run some missions or plexes together, in different sizes of ship, and see what happens!


Ummm...the vast majority of mission runners, who want to grind ISK, don't team up with people.
I was in Eve UNI and ran countless missions with people that ran the gamut from noobs to people with superb in-game skills and experience.

Invariably, a person running solo makes far more ISK / hour.

Further, according to YOUR words, I am sure people will be thrilled to know that if you can somehow run a drone boat, the devs now expect that running solo is no longer an option.

Finally, I am in the midst of the 1.38G download, but I full expect that my account won't be activated for testing.


Then you should probably have posted in the account reactivation thread? Seriously, brighten up your attitude before posting again - you are just coming off as a fool. I am totally aware that most missions are run solo, and soloers who dont use drones obviously will not be affected by AI target switching. At no point did I say that you need to team up to run a drone boat - stop trying to read between the lines and actually read the post!

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#75 - 2012-10-20 18:25:56 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Guys, sorry you've all been posting and not getting any feedback, but we had a company day out yesterday and I imagine most devs are a little fragile today. Keep it coming and thanks for your efforts so far. We're working towards getting TiDi disabled on Duality so that this doesn't continue affecting your testing.


EDIT: For those saying they don't see a difference in AI, it won't be any different if you're the only one on grid and you're not using drones. We encourage people to team up and run some missions or plexes together, in different sizes of ship, and see what happens!


Ummm...the vast majority of mission runners, who want to grind ISK, don't team up with people.
I was in Eve UNI and ran countless missions with people that ran the gamut from noobs to people with superb in-game skills and experience.

Invariably, a person running solo makes far more ISK / hour.

Further, according to YOUR words, I am sure people will be thrilled to know that if you can somehow run a drone boat, the devs now expect that running solo is no longer an option.

Finally, I am in the midst of the 1.38G download, but I full expect that my account won't be activated for testing.


so what you are saying is your comments are moot untill you dl the client and start trying it out?

cool.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#76 - 2012-10-20 18:27:20 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Guys, sorry you've all been posting and not getting any feedback, but we had a company day out yesterday and I imagine most devs are a little fragile today. Keep it coming and thanks for your efforts so far. We're working towards getting TiDi disabled on Duality so that this doesn't continue affecting your testing.


EDIT: For those saying they don't see a difference in AI, it won't be any different if you're the only one on grid and you're not using drones. We encourage people to team up and run some missions or plexes together, in different sizes of ship, and see what happens!


Ummm...the vast majority of mission runners, who want to grind ISK, don't team up with people.
I was in Eve UNI and ran countless missions with people that ran the gamut from noobs to people with superb in-game skills and experience.

Invariably, a person running solo makes far more ISK / hour.

Further, according to YOUR words, I am sure people will be thrilled to know that if you can somehow run a drone boat, the devs now expect that running solo is no longer an option.

Finally, I am in the midst of the 1.38G download, but I full expect that my account won't be activated for testing.


Then you should probably have posted in the account reactivation thread? Seriously, brighten up your attitude before posting again - you are just coming off as a fool. I am totally aware that most missions are run solo, and soloers who dont use drones obviously will not be affected by AI target switching. At no point did I say that you need to team up to run a drone boat - stop trying to read between the lines and actually read the post!


I will now post in the feedback thread, every mission I am running, as I run them, So far, as predicted, a disaster for drone operators.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#77 - 2012-10-20 18:32:18 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Guys, sorry you've all been posting and not getting any feedback, but we had a company day out yesterday and I imagine most devs are a little fragile today. Keep it coming and thanks for your efforts so far. We're working towards getting TiDi disabled on Duality so that this doesn't continue affecting your testing.


EDIT: For those saying they don't see a difference in AI, it won't be any different if you're the only one on grid and you're not using drones. We encourage people to team up and run some missions or plexes together, in different sizes of ship, and see what happens!


Ummm...the vast majority of mission runners, who want to grind ISK, don't team up with people.
I was in Eve UNI and ran countless missions with people that ran the gamut from noobs to people with superb in-game skills and experience.

Invariably, a person running solo makes far more ISK / hour.

Further, according to YOUR words, I am sure people will be thrilled to know that if you can somehow run a drone boat, the devs now expect that running solo is no longer an option.

Finally, I am in the midst of the 1.38G download, but I full expect that my account won't be activated for testing.


Then you should probably have posted in the account reactivation thread? Seriously, brighten up your attitude before posting again - you are just coming off as a fool. I am totally aware that most missions are run solo, and soloers who dont use drones obviously will not be affected by AI target switching. At no point did I say that you need to team up to run a drone boat - stop trying to read between the lines and actually read the post!


I will now post in the feedback thread, every mission I am running, as I run them, So far, as predicted, a disaster for drone operators.


Please don't... We don't want a blow by blow account, we want general feedback or specific instances where things went wrong.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#78 - 2012-10-20 18:50:36 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:

Please don't... We don't want a blow by blow account, we want general feedback or specific instances where things went wrong.


goliath you should change your dev name to facepalm... i think the name would better suit you cuss that is how you must feel having to deal with us kids all the damn time...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#79 - 2012-10-20 19:10:49 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Guys, sorry you've all been posting and not getting any feedback, but we had a company day out yesterday and I imagine most devs are a little fragile today. Keep it coming and thanks for your efforts so far. We're working towards getting TiDi disabled on Duality so that this doesn't continue affecting your testing.


EDIT: For those saying they don't see a difference in AI, it won't be any different if you're the only one on grid and you're not using drones. We encourage people to team up and run some missions or plexes together, in different sizes of ship, and see what happens!


Ummm...the vast majority of mission runners, who want to grind ISK, don't team up with people.
I was in Eve UNI and ran countless missions with people that ran the gamut from noobs to people with superb in-game skills and experience.

Invariably, a person running solo makes far more ISK / hour.

Further, according to YOUR words, I am sure people will be thrilled to know that if you can somehow run a drone boat, the devs now expect that running solo is no longer an option.

Finally, I am in the midst of the 1.38G download, but I full expect that my account won't be activated for testing.


Then you should probably have posted in the account reactivation thread? Seriously, brighten up your attitude before posting again - you are just coming off as a fool. I am totally aware that most missions are run solo, and soloers who dont use drones obviously will not be affected by AI target switching. At no point did I say that you need to team up to run a drone boat - stop trying to read between the lines and actually read the post!


I will now post in the feedback thread, every mission I am running, as I run them, So far, as predicted, a disaster for drone operators.


Please don't... We don't want a blow by blow account, we want general feedback or specific instances where things went wrong.


You wanted feedback, and people have called into question my integrity, so feedback you will get...lot's of it. I have much of the weekend free, so unless you plan on censoring me, I am giving precise feedback on as many missions as I can. And since when is precise data bad for a developer? Oh yeah, when the data runs counter to what you want.
BTW, the first 2 mission were liveable for drone operators, but WILL kill small drones very quickly.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#80 - 2012-10-20 19:18:26 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
. And since when is precise data bad for a developer? Oh yeah, when the data runs counter to what you want.

Pretty much this yeah. Also information overload.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath