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Getting Nocx in minnie space
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manus
Subhypersonics
#1 - 2012-10-20 01:14:35 UTC
Hello,

Been trying to get a hold on some nocx down in molden heath and its definately not easy. I was fine with isogen being somewhat of a pain because at least i could mine it. But nocxium thats a different story. I was aiming for finding some gravimetric sites through exploration, that hopefully would have some nocx roids, but due to my time of play these kinds of sites have already been raided.

So i was thinking how come some roids are only staticly found in minmatar space, and others only in caldari/amarr etc. And while we are at it, how come some roids are only found in 0.0 and low-sec?
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#2 - 2012-10-20 01:21:46 UTC
manus the hands of fate wrote:
So i was thinking how come some roids are only staticly found in minmatar space, and others only in caldari/amarr etc. And while we are at it, how come some roids are only found in 0.0 and low-sec?

To promote trading, exploring, travel, and sometimes to add risk.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
manus
Subhypersonics
#3 - 2012-10-20 01:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: manus
pardon my crudeness but travel sucks why would they want to promote that. and by the looks of it trade is burdoned because of the scarcity
Stan Smith
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-10-20 01:41:03 UTC
manus wrote:
pardon my crudeness but travel sucks why would they want to promote that. and by the looks of it trade is burdoned because of the scarcity


to get people to go to different parts of space to do stuff outside of their comfort zone?

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Gorn Arming
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-10-20 01:52:37 UTC
If it's scarce, buy some, bring it down there, and sell it at a profit.

How that was not your first thought when confronted with this situation is a mystery to me.
manus
Subhypersonics
#6 - 2012-10-20 01:57:03 UTC
Stan Smith wrote:
manus wrote:
pardon my crudeness but travel sucks why would they want to promote that. and by the looks of it trade is burdoned because of the scarcity


to get people to go to different parts of space to do stuff outside of their comfort zone?



Obviously we dont know. But if that is the reason it doesent add much from a gameplay perspective
manus
Subhypersonics
#7 - 2012-10-20 02:00:27 UTC  |  Edited by: manus
Sell orders are pretty much the same throughout highsec, suppose i can make friends with the amarr faction go there mine some nocx haul it back. But still why do they get a monopoly on pyroxeres so to speak
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#8 - 2012-10-20 02:01:10 UTC
manus wrote:
Stan Smith wrote:
to get people to go to different parts of space to do stuff outside of their comfort zone?

Obviously we dont know. But if that is the reason it doesent add much from a gameplay perspective

Originally it was probably done to make some space more valuable than others, especially considering the whole risk/reward paradigm. You have to travel to low-sec and null-sec for the rarer ores, exposing yourself to risk in order to gain greater rewards.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Gorn Arming
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-10-20 02:08:56 UTC
manus wrote:
Sell orders are pretty much the same throughout highsec, suppose i can make friends with the amarr faction go there mine some nocx haul it back. But still why do they get a monopoly on pyroxeres so to speak

Are you trolling?

If sell orders are the same as they are in highsec, just buy from the market. You have no supply issues. What kind of rocks are you smoking?
manus
Subhypersonics
#10 - 2012-10-20 02:10:19 UTC  |  Edited by: manus
Well the isk/m3 when it comes to mining the various roids is pretty equal, except for arkonor which still stands out. So one could argue that risk/reward does not exist anymore when it comes to mining, but thats a whole different story. I guess my complaint is that nocxium is 'hard' to get in minnie space. And i look with envious eyes toward Amarr/Caldari who seemingly can mine it at will
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#11 - 2012-10-20 02:12:19 UTC
manus wrote:
And i look with envious eyes toward Amarr/Caldari who seemingly can mine it at will

Then move to Caldari or Amarr space.Roll

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manus
Subhypersonics
#12 - 2012-10-20 02:18:34 UTC
What i mean is why does nocxium exist in high sec belts in amarr/caldari space and dont in minmatar for example
Gorn Arming
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-10-20 02:21:02 UTC
Man, it's like arguing with a zombie.
Athena Themis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-10-20 02:21:37 UTC
Let's make every system in eve the exact same!!!
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#15 - 2012-10-20 02:23:12 UTC
manus wrote:
What i mean is why does nocxium exist in high sec belts in amarr/caldari space and dont in minmatar for example

For because.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
manus
Subhypersonics
#16 - 2012-10-20 02:23:59 UTC  |  Edited by: manus
Calling people zombies is like meh. Posting with alts is like meh^2

Anyway, variation and dynamics™ is nice. Thats why having the option of mining nocx is appealing
Sarmea Moon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-10-20 02:26:29 UTC
manus wrote:
Well the isk/m3 when it comes to mining the various roids is pretty equal, except for arkonor which still stands out. So one could argue that risk/reward does not exist anymore when it comes to mining, but thats a whole different story. I guess my complaint is that nocxium is 'hard' to get in minnie space. And i look with envious eyes toward Amarr/Caldari who seemingly can mine it at will



Concord space has it too, like Tar, and Pahkshi which are 0.8 systems that are 1-2 jumps from a major gallente hub (Oursulaert).

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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#18 - 2012-10-20 02:51:39 UTC
Fairly certain that the tradeoff is you can't get isogen in Caldari/Amarr space

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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-10-20 05:05:03 UTC
It was a balanced system when EVE was young. 9 years of murdering the loot tables and the reproc to mining conditions of regions has left it not so balanced.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#20 - 2012-10-20 05:18:46 UTC
Saede Riordan wrote:
Fairly certain that the tradeoff is you can't get isogen in Caldari/Amarr space


You can get isogen in Amarr Space, mine Kernite.

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