EVE General Discussion

PLEX aren't just created out of thin air. That statement is like saying Nordstrom doesn't make any money from gift card purchases.

Do you mean the scam that involves "doubling" your isk, or people who are selling isk for cash? I haven't seen a single one of the latter, and I have a jump clone stationed in jita which I jump to quite often.

Nice work....

So, what is an appropriate punishment for bots spamming?

-- I think a server side ban on their local spam, without actually informing them, would be somewhat poetic justice... but a simple x-day ban or something is probably easier to implement and more effective in both in terms of time and EvE cpu usage..

Chribba the bot hunter strikes again.

Very impressive!

Hey Sreegs:

get owned

Oh, most of us know the difference between ingame scamming and actual RMT businesses who are selling ISK for money. I won't name the offender, but they masquerade as an EvE gambling website (no not the Texas Hold-em guys). These RMT guys are experimenting with a new form of ISK acquisition rather than botting or account theft.

They are CONSTANTLY spamming in Jita and several GMs have recommended we flag them as ISK spammers.


This is actually what happens now with ingame spammers when enough players flag them. They're gagged without their realization until a GM comes along to look at it. Unfortunately that GM coming along is rare and often the gag expires with no action against the spammers.

Yes. We both know that, but if you read correctly you can see
that i've wrote that the bots don't put any actual money into CCP.

Yes, somebody else paid for these PLEX, but it wasn't the bots.

The raw data isn't really available in pure form, you can always follow and do similar lookups over at http://eve-live.com/
But this time around I did not do any data dump like before, simply because all the data is already on eve-live.

Method is more me manually looking at how much the pilot repeat themselves, are there any patterns in their posting, like posting timers of posting one message, then 2s post another, wait 45s post, then 2s again etc as well as how they post over timer, like constantly posting for 9 hours all under 90 seconds seems highly unlikely that they not once needed to afk for more than 90 seconds, things like that. So wouldn't really hold as 'proof' but highly unlikely that a pilot at keyboard would manage to do that. Plus ofc those that spam contracts like "[WTB Something] Grab it now" only to suddenly only be posting " Grab it now" a few times, doesn't appear to be "human".

While Samantha could very well have been banned there you should know that alot use trials and just spam away, so it's really had to track, but ofc it could be possible to see patterns there too, but you can't be sure if banned or just stopped to use another alt or stopped completely.


/bows/

So far EVE is a hobby, traffic does help me host things but doesn't really make me rich, a normal month overall it costs more to run than I earn. But as long as I find it fun it doesn't matter to me


This is EXACTLY how I would like to see it, stealth gag, they won't know, they will be paying, we will have less spam. I can def see this be a very good solution.


Exactly, silently shun them without them knowing.

Yeah ignoring local, minimizing, it's not really solving the issues, and will make it spread. I find local very nice many times and would think that so many more could do that in all kind of hubs as well. Thank you for your comments!

Plus, this is only my summary of Jita, with my own tools, imagine what CCP can do sitting on EVERYTHING, they could do much better analyses than I did, crosschecking, IPs, accounts, you name it.


Do you have any link/post on GMs telling we should ISK flag them? Because I've only ever used the "report bot" function. I'd totally go ISK spammer report if reporting spambots that way is the way to go.

/c