EVE General Discussion

I like the idea of agents packing bags and moving. You know that same level 4 agent in Motsu, well turns out he/she ran out of work in that area and moved to another system that is one notch lower in security status. The more players farm these agents, the less they pay and after a certain point they move. Eventually going from high sec to low sec then to null sec. Once they are farmed out in null, they move back to a 1.0 system and the cycle starts over. Level 1's should never move, but still diminish of course.

The potential amount of income in the game would not increase, but just shift where it can be made. Just one of many things that can be done to make the ability to make ISK more dynamic with player population and such. Also would give players a reason to hate each other in high sec. Someone farming the agent you like, war dec em. Of course in low sec and null, the war dec is not necessary. But it would help drive more local conflict.

I wouldn't mind seeing this added as a bridging system to move people to low and null.

Keep what's already there as far as mission agents, and make this a new kind of agent that pays better initially than the other mission agents.

The only problem I could see is that as the mission is farmed and the payout gets lower, people will likely reach a point were they simply stop doing the missions as they aren't paying well enough. It could either be structured so that the agent moves when the payout point reaches around about what a level 4 in high sec pays, or have the agent move after a period of time if no one is utilizing him.


I'm all for "dynamic" content that changes, even in small ways.

Trust me.... It didn't;

Dynamic content (like the moving agents example) would be great, and not only for null sec !
I also love the idea to make pve ennemies more pvp-like (thank you Esteban Dragonovic for the idea), it would fit perfectly with less difference between pvp fits and pve fits, allowing people to do other activies in low/null sec while still having a chance to survive, or at least to give twice to think to the gankers before they attack.
I'd also like to thank our host Davis TetrisKing for his way to organise such an interesting debate without that it turn completly into a troll fest. I've read here some good input from both "sides", and i think that the community can become better only if people learn the point of view of different players, with different styles and experiences, instead of pathetically throwing at each other worthless insults and poorly choosen words of disdain.

The more miners and industrialists listen, the more they realize that my proposed changes benefit them.

This is a logical contradiction, this post itself is trying to prevent people from trying to control how 'anyone" in the game decides to play the game, by advocating restricting people from deciding to play the game with the purpose of controlling how others play the game.

Commentary, lacking any kind of belief on your part that anyone should care about or be affected by your words, in a way that could possibly lead to action, actions which inevitably affect others? Ok, if you're telling everyone not to care about your ideas...then there's a good chance that no one will. I certainly won't.

Cheers.

Doesn't seem to be working well for you, Darth

you should go run some nullsec or lowsec incursions if the reward for hisec payout isn't to your liking

If you were to do a search, you might find there are a metric butt-ton of posts outlining how null is empty. To an extent that is true. You can literally fly around for hours and not see another soul.

The counter point is, it's all owned by someone, or the areas around an unclaimed system is owned. So the reality is, yeah, you can go to an empty system and set up shop, and sooner or later you will be ejected.

It's not a matter of strength or determination; if you squat on mega alliance space, they will eject you.

That said, you can find a corp or an alliance to move to. Some are better than others. You can do the same things in null or low as you can in hi.

And NOT get killed. That's right, you can move to 0.0 and mine, rat, buy/sell in complete and utter safety.

True story.

I don't have a problem with people living anywhere in the game, I myself have hung around in all of it. My preference has always been null.

I do have a problem with people, of any ken, that wants to change the game to their favor even if affects all others negatively.

Eve is what it is. You can mission in the officer fit Nightmare. Go ahead, all you want. When it gets popped, it is disingenuous to cry about it or want total safety. You knew this when you made the character, when you became a missioner, and when you undocked. But the choice was made, and the result of the choice, good or bad was applied.

No-one complains when they clear belt after belt, mission after mission, but the tears flow the moment that is interrupted.

That is my problem with Hi-sec.

A large portion of "eve's subs" who "live in hisec" are nullsec alts.