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Wonder what the look on his face was like? An argument for gun cameras

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#1 - 2012-10-19 15:47:07 UTC
Jim Era
#2 - 2012-10-19 16:00:05 UTC
**** yea murca

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Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
#3 - 2012-10-19 16:00:17 UTC
Pwned by a 12 year old....

Surrender is still your slightly less painful option.

Lord breathenstein
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-10-19 16:03:01 UTC
Mummy forgot to say "Make it a head shot sweety"
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#5 - 2012-10-19 16:15:34 UTC
'MERICA, **** YEAH!

Sorry Mr Home Intruder, objects in the closet may be more protected than they appear.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-10-19 17:52:37 UTC
I love the south Big smile

Can't figure out why people still try to burglarize places here

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2012-10-19 18:06:00 UTC
Shot an intruder through a door. Obviously a 12yo girl has better aim than most evil overlords henchmen.

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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#8 - 2012-10-19 18:21:25 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9 - 2012-10-19 19:45:52 UTC
I am waiting for hand-wringers to start up with "ooohh! *snivel snivel* why is a kid having access to guns? Oh horrors!".

Yeah well one less 12 yo girl getting used as a sex-n-snuff toy is kind of good, no?

I know, we'll have the British in here any minute trying to talk about "shooting burglars who would not have otherwise harmed anybody" but when I teach people self defense with guns (and I have trained people even younger than 12) I ask "do you want a large blood stain and a boatload of paperwork with the cops because someone was trying to steal a DVD player you could replace at Walmart for under 100 bucks?".

Sounds antithetical right? But someone who breaks in and goes for the bedrooms is not some kid looking for a drug fix. If they want to come into the living room and rip off something they can sell in an alley for a hit of smack, I don't give a crap. They come to the bedrooms, they die. They do anything other than run off with whatever they could snatch, knees and elbows, they die. Period. And a fast double tap gets the job done so the creep can't turn after the first shot and have a "british-minded" district attorney jump all over the second shot "not being frontal" and then press charges.

I also expect the "well, what if that was a friend playing a joke? *anti-self defense snivel*" Well, it's very stupid to play jokes like that, no? What are we all supposed to run the world in such manner to be permanently 5 years old? Yeah I'm one of those people you don't do a "surprise birthday party" on. Duh. Be adults and stop with dumb childish crap. There was a case recently, though I can't find the link, where some teenagers pretended to be intruders and one of them got head-shotted by their friend.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-10-19 21:59:49 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I am waiting for hand-wringers to start up with "ooohh! *snivel snivel* why is a kid having access to guns? Oh horrors!".

Yeah well one less 12 yo girl getting used as a sex-n-snuff toy is kind of good, no?

I know, we'll have the British in here any minute trying to talk about "shooting burglars who would not have otherwise harmed anybody" but when I teach people self defense with guns (and I have trained people even younger than 12) I ask "do you want a large blood stain and a boatload of paperwork with the cops because someone was trying to steal a DVD player you could replace at Walmart for under 100 bucks?".

Sounds antithetical right? But someone who breaks in and goes for the bedrooms is not some kid looking for a drug fix. If they want to come into the living room and rip off something they can sell in an alley for a hit of smack, I don't give a crap. They come to the bedrooms, they die. They do anything other than run off with whatever they could snatch, knees and elbows, they die. Period. And a fast double tap gets the job done so the creep can't turn after the first shot and have a "british-minded" district attorney jump all over the second shot "not being frontal" and then press charges.

I also expect the "well, what if that was a friend playing a joke? *anti-self defense snivel*" Well, it's very stupid to play jokes like that, no? What are we all supposed to run the world in such manner to be permanently 5 years old? Yeah I'm one of those people you don't do a "surprise birthday party" on. Duh. Be adults and stop with dumb childish crap. There was a case recently, though I can't find the link, where some teenagers pretended to be intruders and one of them got head-shotted by their friend.



This happened in Oklahoma... that's the south. The same area where the sheriff told me "If you shoot at a trespasser, try to aim for the legs... if you miss, oh well" and "if you shoot him on the porch, drag him inside before we arrive" P


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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#11 - 2012-10-22 11:42:40 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I am waiting for hand-wringers to start up with "ooohh! *snivel snivel* why is a kid having access to guns? Oh horrors!".

Yeah well one less 12 yo girl getting used as a sex-n-snuff toy is kind of good, no?

I know, we'll have the British in here any minute trying to talk about "shooting burglars who would not have otherwise harmed anybody" but when I teach people self defense with guns (and I have trained people even younger than 12) I ask "do you want a large blood stain and a boatload of paperwork with the cops because someone was trying to steal a DVD player you could replace at Walmart for under 100 bucks?".

Sounds antithetical right? But someone who breaks in and goes for the bedrooms is not some kid looking for a drug fix. If they want to come into the living room and rip off something they can sell in an alley for a hit of smack, I don't give a crap. They come to the bedrooms, they die. They do anything other than run off with whatever they could snatch, knees and elbows, they die. Period. And a fast double tap gets the job done so the creep can't turn after the first shot and have a "british-minded" district attorney jump all over the second shot "not being frontal" and then press charges.

I also expect the "well, what if that was a friend playing a joke? *anti-self defense snivel*" Well, it's very stupid to play jokes like that, no? What are we all supposed to run the world in such manner to be permanently 5 years old? Yeah I'm one of those people you don't do a "surprise birthday party" on. Duh. Be adults and stop with dumb childish crap. There was a case recently, though I can't find the link, where some teenagers pretended to be intruders and one of them got head-shotted by their friend.



It's very stoopid to leave your 12 year old daughter alone in a house that has a back door which can easily be kicked in.

A little bit of common sense is free - guns and bullets cost money.

The logic is 'I need to defend myself against people who break into my house' but, why not just spend that money on securing the property instead?

Violence perpetuates violence btw, but lets not get political in a pre-teen thread.

AK

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-10-22 13:09:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
AlleyKat wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I am waiting for hand-wringers to start up with "ooohh! *snivel snivel* why is a kid having access to guns? Oh horrors!".

Yeah well one less 12 yo girl getting used as a sex-n-snuff toy is kind of good, no?

I know, we'll have the British in here any minute trying to talk about "shooting burglars who would not have otherwise harmed anybody" but when I teach people self defense with guns (and I have trained people even younger than 12) I ask "do you want a large blood stain and a boatload of paperwork with the cops because someone was trying to steal a DVD player you could replace at Walmart for under 100 bucks?".

Sounds antithetical right? But someone who breaks in and goes for the bedrooms is not some kid looking for a drug fix. If they want to come into the living room and rip off something they can sell in an alley for a hit of smack, I don't give a crap. They come to the bedrooms, they die. They do anything other than run off with whatever they could snatch, knees and elbows, they die. Period. And a fast double tap gets the job done so the creep can't turn after the first shot and have a "british-minded" district attorney jump all over the second shot "not being frontal" and then press charges.

I also expect the "well, what if that was a friend playing a joke? *anti-self defense snivel*" Well, it's very stupid to play jokes like that, no? What are we all supposed to run the world in such manner to be permanently 5 years old? Yeah I'm one of those people you don't do a "surprise birthday party" on. Duh. Be adults and stop with dumb childish crap. There was a case recently, though I can't find the link, where some teenagers pretended to be intruders and one of them got head-shotted by their friend.



It's very stoopid to leave your 12 year old daughter alone in a house that has a back door which can easily be kicked in.

A little bit of common sense is free - guns and bullets cost money.

The logic is 'I need to defend myself against people who break into my house' but, why not just spend that money on securing the property instead?

Violence perpetuates violence btw, but lets not get political in a pre-teen thread.

AK


There's also another fact... if someone wants to get into the house they'll get in. It's a wood frame with drywall and wooden doors. Also windows so it's hardly a fortress.

Also, non directed and poorly executed violence begets more. If you do it right there will be no more violence because everyone on the other side is dead Twisted

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#13 - 2012-10-22 13:27:57 UTC
and here I thought Stacey was a female name... south?

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#14 - 2012-10-22 15:01:44 UTC
Chribba wrote:
and here I thought Stacey was a female name... south?


Yes, actually. But it's not common.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2012-10-22 16:27:46 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:


It's very stoopid to leave your 12 year old daughter alone in a house that has a back door which can easily be kicked in.

A little bit of common sense is free - guns and bullets cost money.

The logic is 'I need to defend myself against people who break into my house' but, why not just spend that money on securing the property instead?

Violence perpetuates violence btw, but lets not get political in a pre-teen thread.

AK


If they put in a better door the guy would get in via the single pane window or even the wall. Houses in that part of the world are cheap for a reasonStraight
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#16 - 2012-10-22 19:32:35 UTC
Will never understand how excited people get about things like this. It's just a gun.

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2012-10-22 20:37:40 UTC
I am pretty hardcore when it comes to regulation and control of guns. But I'd love to see the face on this man's face when he realizes that he has been shot.

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Elias Greyhand
#18 - 2012-10-22 21:25:25 UTC
British person here, just wishing to chime in.

I have no problem with people killing, maiming or otherwise injuring intruders in to their home. One thing to bear in mind is that if you nut-shot enough intruders, you'll get a reputation and a lot of quiet nights.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#19 - 2012-10-22 22:09:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
From the sounds of it, the girl had gun handling classes if she only had to fire once. Its a common class taught to youngsters to help prevent 'accidental' deaths. These classes oftenly do go over gun safety, culture, respect.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#20 - 2012-10-22 22:12:23 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
From the sounds of it, the girl had gun handling classes if she only had to fire once.



If she had been to my class the intruder would have gotten the Mozambique treatment.

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