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Specialising in frigate pvp, need help.

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Amon Asoria
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-19 10:14:34 UTC
Hello

I would like to ask what frigate would be your choice for factional warfare if you would have unlimited money supply and you could fit what ever you want on the modul slots? I'm going to buy 30 billion isk and money is really no factor for me, and i dont care if i get horrible kill mails, i just want to enjoy pvp. So please dont suggest i start with a punisher, since i got tons of money and i want to spend it on ships and awesom modules. I have lot of money in real life, so i want to spend it on my new hobby.

I dont want to buy character, i want to keep this as my main and learn the game while i train, im in no hurry in that respect. I will buy booster alt that will be cloaked in the system.

So i have two scenarios here, please give your imput on both.

1. (SOLO) What frigate would you buy if it would be free, for faction warfare? If all modules (even the 1b+ ones) are free, how would you fit it?

2. (DUAL BOX) What frigate would you buy if it would be free, for factional warfare if you had booster alt in the system? What stats would you boost and what modules would you fit?

End goal is to have the most powerful attack arsenal possible, so i could solo many ships. I'm not a social person, thats why i'm not looking for a guild.


Best answer gets 200m credits for a prize.
Doddy
Excidium.
#2 - 2012-10-19 10:38:55 UTC
Utu
Doddy
Excidium.
#3 - 2012-10-19 10:42:24 UTC
And legion with 3 armour links + sig reduction link
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-10-19 10:55:36 UTC
Amon Asoria wrote:
Hello

I would like to ask what frigate would be your choice for factional warfare if you would have unlimited money supply and you could fit what ever you want on the modul slots? I'm going to buy 30 billion isk and money is really no factor for me, and i dont care if i get horrible kill mails, i just want to enjoy pvp. So please dont suggest i start with a punisher, since i got tons of money and i want to spend it on ships and awesom modules. I have lot of money in real life, so i want to spend it on my new hobby.

I dont want to buy character, i want to keep this as my main and learn the game while i train, im in no hurry in that respect. I will buy booster alt that will be cloaked in the system.

So i have two scenarios here, please give your imput on both.

1. (SOLO) What frigate would you buy if it would be free, for faction warfare? If all modules (even the 1b+ ones) are free, how would you fit it?

2. (DUAL BOX) What frigate would you buy if it would be free, for factional warfare if you had booster alt in the system? What stats would you boost and what modules would you fit?

End goal is to have the most powerful attack arsenal possible, so i could solo many ships. I'm not a social person, thats why i'm not looking for a guild.


Best answer gets 200m credits for a prize.
I still haven't wrapped my head around the buying free stuff part... where's the trap?

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]

Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#5 - 2012-10-19 11:00:29 UTC
Doddy wrote:
And legion with 3 armour links + sig reduction link


Confirming best frigate in game.. What?

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........

Doddy
Excidium.
#6 - 2012-10-19 11:21:03 UTC
Ravnik wrote:
Doddy wrote:
And legion with 3 armour links + sig reduction link


Confirming best frigate in game.. What?


wot? I don't see you posting one....
Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-10-19 11:30:18 UTC
If cost is no issue, and you want to stick with frigates, then you are looking at Assault Frigates or a Faction Frigate.

Of these, the Hawk, Dram/Daredevil, and Slicer really stand out in my mind, depending on your playstyle. That's not to say that there are not other good ones, but these all tend to offer something that other ships find hard to deliver.

The Hawk combines a serious tank with dual webs. The Dram/Daredevil are the fastest. And no frigate projects dps at range like a Slicer.

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.

Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#8 - 2012-10-19 11:45:55 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Ravnik wrote:
Doddy wrote:
And legion with 3 armour links + sig reduction link


Confirming best frigate in game.. What?


wot? I don't see you posting one....


Thats because i dont have one. I was merely pointing out he asked for FRIG, and you posted Legion Roll

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........

Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#9 - 2012-10-19 11:48:12 UTC
There is no amount of money that could substitute player skills and experience. So please go ahead and spend those 30bil on officer/ded/faction lolfitted frigs and come back when you done. Maybe then you will ask for some real advice and have a will to listen to answers.

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Doddy
Excidium.
#10 - 2012-10-19 11:49:09 UTC
Ravnik wrote:
Doddy wrote:
Ravnik wrote:
Doddy wrote:
And legion with 3 armour links + sig reduction link


Confirming best frigate in game.. What?


wot? I don't see you posting one....


Thats because i dont have one. I was merely pointing out he asked for FRIG, and you posted Legion Roll


Asked for a frig which i posted and he asked for a booster which i posted (scenario 2, did you read the op?). Obviously the legion is the booster not the frig don't be obtuse RollRollRollBlink
Amon Asoria
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-10-19 11:52:57 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
There is no amount of money that could substitute player skills and experience. So please go ahead and spend those 30bil on officer/ded/faction lolfitted frigs and come back when you done. Maybe then you will ask for some real advice and have a will to listen to answers.


I'm quite sure that your advice is to use punisher, where i'm from we dont roll with cheap garbage, when im done with the 30b i buy another 30b. Dramiel seems to be good choice, now i just need to make it fastest boat around eve. I hope it's as fast as my ferrari.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#12 - 2012-10-19 11:56:18 UTC
Amon Asoria wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
There is no amount of money that could substitute player skills and experience. So please go ahead and spend those 30bil on officer/ded/faction lolfitted frigs and come back when you done. Maybe then you will ask for some real advice and have a will to listen to answers.


I'm quite sure that your advice is to use punisher, where i'm from we dont roll with cheap garbage, when im done with the 30b i buy another 30b. Dramiel seems to be good choice, now i just need to make it fastest boat around eve. I hope it's as fast as my ferrari.


Nice, here's 1/10 trolololo rank for ya

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Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#13 - 2012-10-19 12:03:06 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Ravnik wrote:
Doddy wrote:
Ravnik wrote:
Doddy wrote:
And legion with 3 armour links + sig reduction link


Confirming best frigate in game.. What?


wot? I don't see you posting one....


Thats because i dont have one. I was merely pointing out he asked for FRIG, and you posted Legion Roll


Asked for a frig which i posted and he asked for a booster which i posted (scenario 2, did you read the op?). Obviously the legion is the booster not the frig don't be obtuse RollRollRollBlink


then i humbly apologise. Missed that bit P

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........

Robert De'Arneth
#14 - 2012-10-19 12:23:41 UTC
Amon Asoria wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
There is no amount of money that could substitute player skills and experience. So please go ahead and spend those 30bil on officer/ded/faction lolfitted frigs and come back when you done. Maybe then you will ask for some real advice and have a will to listen to answers.


I'm quite sure that your advice is to use punisher, where i'm from we dont roll with cheap garbage, when im done with the 30b i buy another 30b. Dramiel seems to be good choice, now i just need to make it fastest boat around eve. I hope it's as fast as my ferrari.



Where I come from, people who need good answers go to the right place. And for your questions that would be Ship- Mod forums. Big smile You may or may not have money,I doubt it, as people with money do not need to brag. Big smile Still you are funny, so I will give you a 1/10.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 

Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-10-19 12:45:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
Reserved for atron on dramiel km

Honestly though, go play BSGO where this sort of "game play" will work. For a mere $3000 or so you can instantly have the best ship and most skilled character on the field
Amon Asoria
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-10-19 12:46:06 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Amon Asoria wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
There is no amount of money that could substitute player skills and experience. So please go ahead and spend those 30bil on officer/ded/faction lolfitted frigs and come back when you done. Maybe then you will ask for some real advice and have a will to listen to answers.


I'm quite sure that your advice is to use punisher, where i'm from we dont roll with cheap garbage, when im done with the 30b i buy another 30b. Dramiel seems to be good choice, now i just need to make it fastest boat around eve. I hope it's as fast as my ferrari.



Where I come from, people who need good answers go to the right place. And for your questions that would be Ship- Mod forums. Big smile You may or may not have money,I doubt it, as people with money do not need to brag. Big smile Still you are funny, so I will give you a 1/10.


Thank you
Keno Skir
#17 - 2012-10-19 13:03:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
"Once i'm done giving out 30 Billion in ships and modules to actual skilled PVP'ers who learned in proper T1 frigates, i'll just give out another 30 Billion."

I'm assuming where you come from money makes you the best at things. That's not true here.

The punisher is pants for solo as i'v said before (IMHO). But most of the other T1 frigates are perfectly legitimate in skilled hands. The other thing is that pilots who train in standard ships are forced to learn all kinds of tricks which they will later employ flying very expensive ships. Jumping straight into faction gear without skills (SP skills and actual real skills) to use it properly will likely make you LESS effective than standard T1 gear.

For instance you will notice most T2 hulls have 1 less rigslot than their T1 counterparts. This often means T2 hulls must be fit by a fairly skilled player before they will actually outperform standard T1.

Lastly many players in the game will actively hunt you down en-mass if they see you flying a shiny ship under-age. Flying too expensive too early can reduce your combat effectiveness just due to this. Flying ships suited to the role doesnt always mean "good enough or better", sometimes it means "good enough, but not so good i become a target for everyone".

So i suggest that while the Punisher is indeed a bad choice, a Merlin or Incursus would be an excellent platform from which to explore PvP. I'm not suggesting this in order to save you money, but to ensure you get a thorough training. You will find yourself lacking in combat without learning good player skills, regardless how expensive your ship and mods are.

Most people who read this forum have just added you as a contact and will be keeping up to date with your location for the next little while to see what your going to buy them. Make sure you dont buy them anything too nice or they will hound you for a long time.

EDIT : These days Ferarris tend to perform badly compared to many many much cheaper and better designed cars. Penis extensions in life are one thing, but another thing completely in a video game. The only way you will get better is by learning thoroughly, not by spending money. Whatever you buy and whatever it costs, it will be killed by a skilled player in a PUNISHER if you don't have the knowledge to keep it alive.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-10-19 13:37:27 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Amon Asoria wrote:
Hello

I would like to ask what frigate would be your choice for factional warfare if you would have unlimited money supply and you could fit what ever you want on the modul slots? I'm going to buy 30 billion isk and money is really no factor for me, and i dont care if i get horrible kill mails, i just want to enjoy pvp. So please dont suggest i start with a punisher, since i got tons of money and i want to spend it on ships and awesom modules. I have lot of money in real life, so i want to spend it on my new hobby.

I dont want to buy character, i want to keep this as my main and learn the game while i train, im in no hurry in that respect. I will buy booster alt that will be cloaked in the system.

So i have two scenarios here, please give your imput on both.

1. (SOLO) What frigate would you buy if it would be free, for faction warfare? If all modules (even the 1b+ ones) are free, how would you fit it?

2. (DUAL BOX) What frigate would you buy if it would be free, for factional warfare if you had booster alt in the system? What stats would you boost and what modules would you fit?

End goal is to have the most powerful attack arsenal possible, so i could solo many ships. I'm not a social person, thats why i'm not looking for a guild.


Best answer gets 200m credits for a prize.


1. Good luck with your booster alt CLOAKED up in system. It won't provide boosts.

2. Where do you buy 30bil ISK with RL money, as that sounds like RMT site. If you do that, I must warn you, CCP will find out and will take the amount of money you gained from your wallet, even if it's no longer there. Seriously, go spent 30bil and let me know when you take your ship out, I will put EVE-kill on auto refresh to troll that frigate you lost.

If you want to use RL money for extra ISK there are 2 legit ways:

- Buy PLEX from CCP directly
- Buy a GTC from an official reseller.



OOh and for best frigate if costs doesn't matter:

The last existing Golden Magnate.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-10-19 13:41:42 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Amon Asoria wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
There is no amount of money that could substitute player skills and experience. So please go ahead and spend those 30bil on officer/ded/faction lolfitted frigs and come back when you done. Maybe then you will ask for some real advice and have a will to listen to answers.


I'm quite sure that your advice is to use punisher, where i'm from we dont roll with cheap garbage, when im done with the 30b i buy another 30b. Dramiel seems to be good choice, now i just need to make it fastest boat around eve. I hope it's as fast as my ferrari.


Okay, you almost had me with your OP.

But this gave you away as a troll and cause of that it's reported.

Ooh btw, have fun with your 30bil, plenty of locator agents already running =)

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

Amon Asoria
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-10-19 14:35:03 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Amon Asoria wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
There is no amount of money that could substitute player skills and experience. So please go ahead and spend those 30bil on officer/ded/faction lolfitted frigs and come back when you done. Maybe then you will ask for some real advice and have a will to listen to answers.


I'm quite sure that your advice is to use punisher, where i'm from we dont roll with cheap garbage, when im done with the 30b i buy another 30b. Dramiel seems to be good choice, now i just need to make it fastest boat around eve. I hope it's as fast as my ferrari.


Okay, you almost had me with your OP.

But this gave you away as a troll and cause of that it's reported.

Ooh btw, have fun with your 30bil, plenty of locator agents already running =)


What is locator agent, and i'm not worried, Noir mercenary group has my back.
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