Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What about instead of all this complicated business, you just made Local Chat work like it does in a Wormhole for low and null sec (we could argue that in high sec, ships are required to have transponders active aka accurate local).

For null sec, again it should work like W-Space, with one exception: anchor-able structures with very small numbers of hit points (think easily destroyed by small gangs - YAY!), in SOV space. WIth those structures anchored in system, the local chat because 100% accurate again just like it currently is (visible to ALL parties). However, those structures could be destroyed fairly easily, by locating them and blowing them up.

The cool thing about this idea is that it works as a nice, happy medium between two extremes:

1) Local is no longer used totally as an intelligence gathering tool.

2) With some cheap, fairly easy to kill structures anchored, Local could be used for intelligence, but those structures can be destroyed by a small gang in a few minutes (think 5-10 people).

3) This solves several shortcomings: not enough small gang targets for SOV warfare, too much advanced warning, more opportunities to attack/defend without a 200+ man gang, more easily accomplished SOV maintenance (the Local Scanner Structures should by small, easily haulable, and generally easily replaceable. The idea is easy to kill, easy to replace for any half-way diligent group.

As I've said before, if you want nullsec to be more like wormholes, well, you might as well give us the ability to bridge large fleets and jump supercapital blobs into wormholes.

I want an automatic Dscan with far superior range (like 64AU), less information (like only ship number), and less directional to replace the local ! With an automatic function ticking every 3 or 5 seconds.

Or the system scanner could do it (but keep the automatic thing, we are in the 25th century...)

And while you are at it, put the automatic function on the dscan !

I don't even use local anyways, so it's not like that'd impact me greatly. I do think though that there should be other less easy to exploit methods of gathering intel that'd be available to lone pilots, or groups up to five, so that small gangs of frigates or whatever wouldn't just always wander headfirst into hostile camps at every opportunity. That'd quickly just get people to avoid any kind of dangerous space unless they were in a big alliance, I think.

I understand the hate for local but I also understand its nessesity in the game. It gives the players a sense that someone is there. It gives the social aspect of the MMO right off the bat. Then there is lore and just basic technology that exists, you have to have a reason to remove local. In this case I think local should work at a connection rate. Your ship does calculations to connect to a systems network making players show up in your local. Higher security systems load their pilots into local faster after a new player enters the system then a low sec system would.

As for everything in null, give the players a pos module or some kind of structure they anchor in system that boosts their own local chat. This means they can have trap systems with no local, while others like an alliance capital or home system would have many to improve chat time in game.



I dont really fly null (im a wormhole player) so I cant really say yay or nay about this



An alliance should be able to take and hold as many systems as it wants. You HAVE to think of the emergent gameplay when you make ideas. If you want to attempt to force players to hold less sov then throw something at them that makes it difficult to hold many systems unless you're alliance is organized and able to keep up on the upkeep of all their systems. Perhaps concord or faction forces get sent to prevent your alliance from getting too many systems and threatening empire space. Maybe the local rats start growing stronger the less you kill them leading them up to incursion level fleets taking back sov space.



Problem is technically that information gets registered with concord so it will always be available no matter how much you wish it wasnt.



This info should still be mapable though (more work for explorers yay!). That way alliances have to map out their enemies sov space.

I think you should be able to scan while cloaked but as soon as you start to send waves of signals to and from your ship, you should be easyly tracked. Maybe getting yourself visible in DScan or breaking the cloak while you keep scanning

It's the mobility and power projection through jump mechanics that needs a good beating with the nerfbat.

Then offset this by increasing the rewards for null by further cultivating claimed systems (like better ores for low-ends, higher bounties, better incursion pay-out, etc.), so cutting null's umbilical cord to empire doesn't cause a mass-exodus.

And then do something about the instant Local (like perhaps requiring a special POS modules to function).

Oh do I have a thread you might like....

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112964&find=unread

I hate all you people going fine remove local but give us something just like it back.


What's the freaking point in removing it if you instantly say u want a tool that gathers your intel for you?


All i have to say is HTFU and fine your alliance some real scouts with scanning skills and that know how To work d scan.

All u null sec people all wase quote why should ccp hold your had to.the carebears.

And i ask you why should ccp hold your hand and do your scouting for you?