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Angela Spears
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-18 03:57:15 UTC
Just looking for some direction in exploration. I dabbled in it awhile back but not too much. I'm wanting to try it out again so I've brought out my Vexor I fitted for exploring. I followed this to fit it:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/33638-Vexor-Explorex-High-Sec-Exploration.html

...Except for the plate, salvager and tractor beam. Also put an AB on it and a Sisters Probe launcher.

I've googled a few "guides" or blogs on the subject but 99% of them were old. My exploration skills are 3 and above. I have no problem scanning down sites. I'm honestly just going to any site I find except Grav sites. So for the past 4 days I've been running around within 5 Jumps of Barkrik(I think that's the name) scanning down everything I can just to check it out. After this many days, I've literally got about 75k to show for it. A total of about 12hours (I'm dead serious) of scanning down sties, I've only found a few sits where I jump in and pop about 20k worth of drones or I get to a gate that I cannot access because I don't have a key or something.


I'm really tired of missioning. Exploring sounded fun, but after 12 hours with nothing to show for it, I'm force to come here and find some direction because I know there must be something I'm missing or doing wrong. Can someone offer some suggestions or point me to a good guide? The ones I've read just didn't help me out much for one reason or another.

thanks
Tragedy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-10-18 04:48:20 UTC
Random is random. I was in high sec the other day, ran an anomoly and got a 70m faction scram. Scanning whs, found a ded 4/10 and got nearly a bill in loot. Other times I'll scan for hours and find nothing. You'll just have to accept that, and the fact that high sec exploration blows. Too much competition, and too little pay out. Though if you stick with it Ive found it to be better than lvl 4s.
Train up for an ishtar if you like exploration and drone boats
Angela Spears
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-10-18 04:55:28 UTC
Tragedy wrote:
Random is random. I was in high sec the other day, ran an anomoly and got a 70m faction scram. Scanning whs, found a ded 4/10 and got nearly a bill in loot. Other times I'll scan for hours and find nothing. You'll just have to accept that, and the fact that high sec exploration blows. Too much competition, and too little pay out. Though if you stick with it Ive found it to be better than lvl 4s.
Train up for an ishtar if you like exploration and drone boats


Awesome thanks. Yeah, I only chose an Vexor because it seemed popular when I was googling info. What is the deal with needing keys or passes, if you will, to access some of these jumpgates? Where do I get them?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2012-10-18 05:05:33 UTC
Yeah, random is random. I'd also try moving further from Hek but that's just me.
Angela Spears
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-10-18 05:15:46 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Yeah, random is random. I'd also try moving further from Hek but that's just me.


Yeah, I'm thinking I need to do that. I was only in Barkrik because that's where I'm running level 4 Amarr missions atm.
Melina Lin
Universal Frog
#6 - 2012-10-18 05:43:34 UTC
Barkrik is part of a Cosmos constellation. Cosmos are not the sites you are looking for. You need to move out of there and cover the entire region(s).

Put spare drones in the cargo and use Dotlan to plot a course around Metropolis. Tomorrow Heimatar, etc.

Plug the explosive hole on the Vexor or you are going to DIAF.
Raiko Osburn
Advanced Resource Acquisition and Exploration
#7 - 2012-10-18 08:50:09 UTC
I am doing high sec exploration very often and one thing I am certain of is its income is very fluctuating. You will find only radar sites or weak combat sites for a week and make less than 50 mil. Than boom and you got 500mil worth invulnerability field in your cargohold.

If you want to make ISK and you see exploration as good way to make it, you are right. But ...
Don't spent all day looking for combat sites. It is more about luck, than effort. Also there are other hunters out there who will clean those sites. Find yourself 5-10 systems in a row you check once a day. If you are done with it and you still have time to play, go do missions or trading or anything else. Don't spend too much time on scanning.

Forget numbers, play with ideas, look for solutions.

Angela Spears
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-10-18 14:28:40 UTC
Melina Lin wrote:
Barkrik is part of a Cosmos constellation. Cosmos are not the sites you are looking for. You need to move out of there and cover the entire region(s).

Put spare drones in the cargo and use Dotlan to plot a course around Metropolis. Tomorrow Heimatar, etc.

Plug the explosive hole on the Vexor or you are going to DIAF.


Great thanks. What do you mean by plugging the explosive hole in my Vexor? And what is DIAF? Sorry, noobish quesiton hehe.


Also Raiko, thanks for that info. When scanning down a site, do you folks scan down a few at a time, bookmark them and then go clear them? Or do you go to a site as soon as you've scanned it down?
Hav0cide
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#9 - 2012-10-18 15:00:21 UTC
Angela Spears wrote:
Melina Lin wrote:
Barkrik is part of a Cosmos constellation. Cosmos are not the sites you are looking for. You need to move out of there and cover the entire region(s).

Put spare drones in the cargo and use Dotlan to plot a course around Metropolis. Tomorrow Heimatar, etc.

Plug the explosive hole on the Vexor or you are going to DIAF.


Great thanks. What do you mean by plugging the explosive hole in my Vexor? And what is DIAF? Sorry, noobish quesiton hehe.


Also Raiko, thanks for that info. When scanning down a site, do you folks scan down a few at a time, bookmark them and then go clear them? Or do you go to a site as soon as you've scanned it down?


In highsec yes, scan and run them before someone else comes along.

DIAF - Die in a fire.

By plugging the explosive hole, he is talking about your resists on the ship has a weakness. Just like the tengu has an EM Hole resistance making it very weak to EM damage.

Research your facttion and what damage they deal. If your fighting guristas your want higher Kinetic/thermal resistance etc.

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Angela Spears
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-10-18 15:20:14 UTC
Hav0cide wrote:
Angela Spears wrote:
Melina Lin wrote:
Barkrik is part of a Cosmos constellation. Cosmos are not the sites you are looking for. You need to move out of there and cover the entire region(s).

Put spare drones in the cargo and use Dotlan to plot a course around Metropolis. Tomorrow Heimatar, etc.

Plug the explosive hole on the Vexor or you are going to DIAF.


Great thanks. What do you mean by plugging the explosive hole in my Vexor? And what is DIAF? Sorry, noobish quesiton hehe.


Also Raiko, thanks for that info. When scanning down a site, do you folks scan down a few at a time, bookmark them and then go clear them? Or do you go to a site as soon as you've scanned it down?


In highsec yes, scan and run them before someone else comes along.

DIAF - Die in a fire.

By plugging the explosive hole, he is talking about your resists on the ship has a weakness. Just like the tengu has an EM Hole resistance making it very weak to EM damage.

Research your facttion and what damage they deal. If your fighting guristas your want higher Kinetic/thermal resistance etc.


Ahh okay, yeah. I got a full set of resist stuff in my hold, one for each damage type depending on what I'm going up against. Good advice.
Teo Deo
Financial Funding For Bear
#11 - 2012-10-18 20:04:55 UTC
My advice is tour around and explore as many high sec systems as you can. I like to find a circuit of 10 or 12 systems and go from one to the next. Then start over again at the first one either immediately or after lunch. If you do this, be sure to write down all the identifiers the first time through and you can ignore them on following visits (you know they aren’t what you’re looking for). But the identifiers change each day at downtime – so tomorrow you’ll have to re-scan everything.

If you are starting your exploration several hours after downtime you can safely ignore any identifiers that share a common final two letters (_XR or _GK) since they were assigned at downtime several hours before and no one thought enough of them to eliminate them…

Look only for radars and 3/10 or 4/10 DED sites (though a 4/10 might be a challenge for your vexor). Wormholes, mag, grav, ladar, and other signatures can be ignored. Also ignore the anomalies that appear as 100% on your first scan (or better yet, set up your filter to ignore anomalies and only look for signatures).

Only scan sites until you see what they are (that happens at 25%) – and if they are “radar” or “unknown” then continue scanning them. Ignore the others. If the “unknown” turn into anything other than a DED site – ignore it.

When you start in high sec exploration radars are your bread and butter. DED sites are your fancy desserts.

Good luck!
Angela Spears
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-10-18 21:11:36 UTC
Teo Deo wrote:
My advice is tour around and explore as many high sec systems as you can. I like to find a circuit of 10 or 12 systems and go from one to the next. Then start over again at the first one either immediately or after lunch. If you do this, be sure to write down all the identifiers the first time through and you can ignore them on following visits (you know they aren’t what you’re looking for). But the identifiers change each day at downtime – so tomorrow you’ll have to re-scan everything.

If you are starting your exploration several hours after downtime you can safely ignore any identifiers that share a common final two letters (_XR or _GK) since they were assigned at downtime several hours before and no one thought enough of them to eliminate them…

Look only for radars and 3/10 or 4/10 DED sites (though a 4/10 might be a challenge for your vexor). Wormholes, mag, grav, ladar, and other signatures can be ignored. Also ignore the anomalies that appear as 100% on your first scan (or better yet, set up your filter to ignore anomalies and only look for signatures).

Only scan sites until you see what they are (that happens at 25%) – and if they are “radar” or “unknown” then continue scanning them. Ignore the others. If the “unknown” turn into anything other than a DED site – ignore it.

When you start in high sec exploration radars are your bread and butter. DED sites are your fancy desserts.

Good luck!


ROck on, thanks.

Just to update. i just scanned down my first radar site and it netted me 34mil in stuff including a Minmater Encryption book, what is that for? Either way, finding this site was good for morale lol. I had been getting hardly anything. Thanks for all the advice. That Map link helped a lot too.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2012-10-18 21:56:25 UTC
In before Sir Livingstone.. but do yourself a favor.. search for him, he has tons of helpful vids
Angela Spears
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-10-18 22:57:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Angela Spears
Cage Man wrote:
In before Sir Livingstone.. but do yourself a favor.. search for him, he has tons of helpful vids


Awesome, thanks.Big smile

**EDIT**'

Just watched some of his vids... Wow is all I got to say. I learned a lot in 30mins.