EVE General Discussion

Wouldn't a worst case brute force calculation be like 5000! (5000 factorial, i.e. 5000 * 4999 * 4998 * ... * 1) which is around 4x10^16325? Since you calculate the number of jumps from one system to each other system, then number of jumps from the second system to each other system except the first one (because you've already done it), so on and so forth until you've run through every system.

Applying the graph theory stuff to the problem would make it a lot more solvable than brute forcing your way through it. So it'd be interesting to hear how the A* pathfinding works for this problem and how many calculations it would take since I don't know how to calculate that. I still suspect it'd be pretty heinous.

Route overflow.

I don't know what it is now, but it used to be Yulai.

Actually, in this case gate distribution is more important than mere geography.
On the other hand, since you have to start somewhere, SQ is as good a bet as any.

This tbh.

iirc there was a thread on the old forums years ago where someone actually figured it out. Unfortunately my quick look around eve-search was unfruitful; maybe Chribba can dig something up.

The radius of the EVE cluster is 56. The center is Lansez (Khanid). In layman's terms, any system in EVE is reachable within 56 jumps from Lansez, and this is minimal such number.

The system with the minimum average distance to all other systems is Kaaputenen (The Citadel). The average distance is 26.32 jumps.

The system with the minimum sum of square distances to all other systems is Otosela (The Forge). (If you don't know why this is important, feel free to ignore this fact.)

The furthest two systems in EVE are 99 jumps apart. It's 373Z-7 (Stain) and any one of SVB-RE, BU-IU4, or 3KNA-N (all three in Branch).



All data is based on the Inferno 1.2 static data dump, counting only space reachable by gates (no Jove, no wormholes). I now have a full matrix of system to system distances, if anyone wants any other facts.

OK

So who else it happy with Kaaputenen being renamed Bacon?

All this thread for a question which was answered (correctly!) in the first reply

If we are going with jumps, that one thing, but physical distance is another.

The actual "Center of Gravity" of the universe if we flat-plotted all of the stars on a XY grid, might not even be a system.


The roll players did something that might provide a clue. In attempting to find out exactly where wormhole space was, they used a trick (nerfed since that time) of setting up several POSes and then hitting the wormhole systems and getting a distance in light years reading from each POS to triangulate an actual distance that W space systems were from known space. The goal was to actually map W space.


I suppose that such a technique might work in finding that absolute center.

I think "absolute center" would refer to the geometric center and will differ from a center determined by the number of jumps to all outer points by average.

Beyond this, I'm not touching the math with a borrowed 10' pole.

I think the actual center of the eve cluster is the point of no return. Its not a system, bit if you look on the starmap it does pop up in the relative center. I only noticed it because my text was all wonky.