Ships & Modules

So the Tengu is my Hi-sec pve ship of choice, the HML missile changes are going to really hurt, or are they?

Playing with EFT Retribution found Here I have come up with this fit-

[Tengu, New Setup 1]
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System

Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Pith A-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

I know it's expensive, gank magnet ect.. But compared to the current HML fit we gain-

(Implants)
1042 dps - 790
103 exp radius - 180!
137 exp velocity - 167.
30 range - 113

The range would be the only thing we lose but gaining so much dps and the far smaller explosion radius.
With the agility and speed of a Tengu, max damage at 30km the Range isn't really an issue or is it?
If/When they include the Tracking mods it will become even better.

Have Ham's become Viable and is the Tengu about to become better at what it does in Level 4 missions?

Trade a tp for a faction web maybe? Both should work well and the web could help slow down frigates enough to get out of scram range if you do have problems.

Not happening. Rather disappointing really.

GMP will apply to all missiles though. So there's that.

By the time you get in range to apply the dps, my unchanged( going to leave the fit as is) HML tengu would have destroyed the NPC.

so basically 9/10 lvl4 missions.

Nerf slightly HM's to bring them in line with other medium weapon systems dmg projection is a good thing but put all missiles in "nerf" pot is a silly assumption.
All short range missiles are getting huge buffs, T2 missiles are just getting really "fat" and ship bonuses changes, not yet fixed but seems pretty accurate, are not nerfing Tengus and Drakes at all.

by actually undocking and running missions. it's not my fault that you talk about things you have no idea of.

You have no facts, give up.
I have run 1000s of missions in my time so it is your OPINION against mine on how many missions require long travels..
This was not the subject of my post,
Will this new age tengu be faster and better possibly op. 1kdps + from a cruiser!!??
Give me hard facts eg.. 37missions require a range of 50k 12 of 35k ect. Or shut up.

Anyone else believe this buffed t2 Ham ammo is future? Will this be the end game of level 4 ships?

Whoa, Whoa, stop right there! Range and damage application is exactly exactly the reason you pick heavy missiles over other weapon systems. If you want to win the DPS race take a blaster vindi/AC mach/tachy nightmare. Hell, even empire faction battleships do better damage, than that (most of them at better range).