EVE General Discussion

Thanks for this passionate defence.

The guy is right, though, to a certain extent, although the analogies to RL are a bit extreme. I take RL pretty seriously, I work hard and support my family. But I don't consider that to be a grind. I take enjoyment from most of what I do in life.

I just hate grinding for ISK. And I don't want to lose my PVE CNR. It's the most expensive ship I have ever owned. But you know what? It's not faction fit, just T2. Faction fit would be a waste of PVP ISK.

You do realize this a game still right? Just checking..

Are you e-stalking this Toon, or looking at CCP's Logs of his activvity ? That is the only way you could possibly know those things.

Bad poasting indeed.

This is one of my hobbies.




Check again.

Except you're playing in a massively multiplayer game, and more importantly you're playing in one where virtually everything is entirely player driven. When you mine spacerocks and sell them, manufacture things and sell them or when you buy things for yourself you're competing with the other people on the market, you're having an impact on the availability and prices of ships, modules etc for players ranging from other hisec bears to lowsec solo pirates to null alliances to crazed wormholers - you're affecting all of those players, their allies, their enemies, and not always in a way they want you to. Yet when THEY want to come gunning for you, you spew this horseshit about not wanting to deal with it, as if the massively interconnected, player driven universe is something you can pick and choose when you're part of. You can't, you're part of it every second you're playing.

Maybe if you expanded your *pvp* activities beyond can-flipping you would be less worried about what happens in high sec. Just a thought..

Yes, he should. It isn't a matter of an i Win button, but you think he shouldn't pvp at all because he balances highsec and lowsec life. That's what pisses me off about you.


Some of us have social lives, things we do outside of Eve. Going out, shopping, movies, dining, vacations, living a life. A hobby does not equate to a life encompassing black hole like vacuum.


I'm not lacking time at all. I play how much I want to play. I don't put in 8 hours a day because I simply don't want to. So me personally, I am happy with the way I can play (aside from nul/low bears bitching and moaning). Maybe building up sec status could be made a little easier. It's difficult getting back from the negatives, stupidly so. But then again that would cheapen finally being out of the red, so meh..



And this is where you loose any credibility. There is no such thing as a second class citizen you ****, not in this game. It's a game, not a hobby. If you think it's a hobby to you, more power to you. But you in NO way have any ******* say about who is and is not deserving of the game and what it can do or be for them. You have NO say in trying to push "it's a hobby, live it or leave it" on ANYONE else.

AT ALL.

Know your place? It's like some form of racism. No wonder you spend all your free time on your "hobby." With a personality like that, I'd not want to deal with you outside of work at all. High sec contributes fine to eve. Try living without high sec for a few months, buy nothing from it, dont goto it, ask CCP to shut it off, and see how quickly your "hobby" dies.

Edit: Also what makes you think you should be so "proud" for being l33t in a game? What do you contribute that's so earth shaking that you can be calling others second class citizens? What accomplishments have you made? Do you think YOUR entitled to say that because your a cop RL? That doesn't give you any sway over who is and is not a second class citizen here. Are you really an officer? With what you've said, I highly highly doubt it.

If I may;

There's always been this argument popping up and honestly it can go either way. When he says pvp, I think he refers to ship v ship active combat. **** blowing up etc. Someone can argue whether mining a rock is pvp or not all day every day, but it'll go nowhere.

For the sake of advancing your argument OP, you should clarify that you refer to ship v ship pewpew boom combat as the pvp you are discussing.

Edit: As for his risk aversion argument, think of it this way. Let's say you were building a model, safely in your home. It's taken you a few hours to put this model...whatever together, and it may or may not compete with other people's models, but you aren't really concerned with them. You just want to build it and enjoy it. It's fun to you.

Then suddenly, someone busts into your house and, 10 seconds before the cops arrive, bashes you on the head, wrecks your model completely, laughs and yells at you, and then gets arrested and hauled off.

Does that seem right to you?

It is always refreshing to see someone with clairvoyance skills. The force is strong with this one.

Says someone with endless income. I despise frakn hypocrites.