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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#21 - 2012-10-17 18:19:20 UTC
Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:
Fise Corp CEO: The Wis.

I'm sorry that I felt bad for him after the whole Mittani thing.

Down with bots!


He's not a bot. He actually multiboxes like 26 accounts at once. No joke. He has some youtube clips and a blog somewhere where he has photos and a full description of his setup.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#22 - 2012-10-17 18:39:07 UTC
Tul Breetai wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
There's others like this too. This might be the biggest one I've ever seen though.

Still, there's probably at least 2,000-3,000 bots mining just ice logged in at all times. There's a reason why the server count rises very quickly right after downtime, despite being during EU work/US sleep hours.

At least a quarter of the players online at any given time are bots.



Not to be a contrarian, but that isn't a valid argument. Please, just go kill miners and leave the thinking to the contract pvpers.

Looks like I have a fan. Adorable. Which war are you from?

:3

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Sugar Von MurdererTits
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#23 - 2012-10-17 20:23:25 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:


He's not a bot. He actually multiboxes like 26 accounts at once. No joke. He has some youtube clips and a blog somewhere where he has photos and a full description of his setup.


So his crime is'nt botting, it's multiboxing 20+ accounts mining high sec ice. In that case the crime is his punishment. It's hard to imagine doing anything worse to him that he's already doing to himself.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-10-18 01:28:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:
Fise Corp CEO: The Wis.

I'm sorry that I felt bad for him after the whole Mittani thing.

Down with bots!


He's not a bot. He actually multiboxes like 26 accounts at once. No joke. He has some youtube clips and a blog somewhere where he has photos and a full description of his setup.


you seriously arguing someone is sitting at multiple PCs running 26 accounts and entering all commands manually without any multiboxing software or plugins or macro bots?
look, i know you can multibox a few accounts, I do it myself with 4-5 fairly often, but even given the mindnumbing boredom and ease of ice mining, i call bullshit on that one.

CCP Falcon wrote:

That image has the potential to be so much more epic...

...by being filled with little yellow triangles Big smile


sure no problem, just reverse the stupid mining barge HP buffs and ill get right to it.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Mikeh24
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-10-18 02:22:52 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

That image has the potential to be so much more epic...

...by being filled with little yellow triangles Big smile



LET US BOMB IN EMPIREAttention
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-10-18 03:30:47 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:
Fise Corp CEO: The Wis.

I'm sorry that I felt bad for him after the whole Mittani thing.

Down with bots!


He's not a bot. He actually multiboxes like 26 accounts at once. No joke. He has some youtube clips and a blog somewhere where he has photos and a full description of his setup.


you seriously arguing someone is sitting at multiple PCs running 26 accounts and entering all commands manually without any multiboxing software or plugins or macro bots?
look, i know you can multibox a few accounts, I do it myself with 4-5 fairly often, but even given the mindnumbing boredom and ease of ice mining, i call bullshit on that one.

CCP Falcon wrote:

That image has the potential to be so much more epic...

...by being filled with little yellow triangles Big smile


sure no problem, just reverse the stupid mining barge HP buffs and ill get right to it.

A "bot" and a "macro" are two different things. The fact that you called it a "macro bot" demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about. (hint: macros aren't against the ELUA, bots are)
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#27 - 2012-10-18 03:45:47 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

That image has the potential to be so much more epic...

...by being filled with little yellow triangles Big smile




But not after crimewatch right?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-10-18 03:46:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Astroniomix wrote:
A "bot" and a "macro" are two different things. The fact that you called it a "macro bot" demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about. (hint: macros aren't against the ELUA, bots are)


mining macros are also against it.
the difference between a macro and a bot is semantics at best. a bot it basically just a complicated macro.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#29 - 2012-10-18 07:15:27 UTC
wwwwwwuuuuuuutttttt daaaaaaaa ffffffuuuuuuuu~ Shocked
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#30 - 2012-10-18 12:09:23 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Tul Breetai wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
There's others like this too. This might be the biggest one I've ever seen though.

Still, there's probably at least 2,000-3,000 bots mining just ice logged in at all times. There's a reason why the server count rises very quickly right after downtime, despite being during EU work/US sleep hours.

At least a quarter of the players online at any given time are bots.



Not to be a contrarian, but that isn't a valid argument. Please, just go kill miners and leave the thinking to the contract pvpers.

Looks like I have a fan. Adorable. Which war are you from?

:3



You're saying it IS a valid argument? Or trying to distract everyone from the invalid argument?

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-10-18 13:14:19 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:
A "bot" and a "macro" are two different things. The fact that you called it a "macro bot" demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about. (hint: macros aren't against the ELUA, bots are)


mining macros are also against it.
the difference between a macro and a bot is semantics at best. a bot it basically just a complicated macro.


You are wrong.

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#32 - 2012-10-18 14:21:44 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

That image has the potential to be so much more epic...

...by being filled with little yellow triangles Big smile



Shame your bosses have decided to turn eve online into a grind with regluar gratification and almost zero chance of upset for players. Part of this process involved giving insane amounts of hp to mining ships.

Don't worry another game will come along and fill the intelectual mmo bracket as eve slips further into wow terriotry.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-10-18 16:10:10 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

That image has the potential to be so much more epic...

...by being filled with little yellow triangles Big smile



Shame your bosses have decided to turn eve online into a grind with regluar gratification and almost zero chance of upset for players. Part of this process involved giving insane amounts of hp to mining ships.

Don't worry another game will come along and fill the intelectual mmo bracket as eve slips further into wow terriotry.


I'm not so sure that you are part of the intellectual group...Ugh

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Beat General
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-10-18 16:49:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Beat General
Jack Miton wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:
A "bot" and a "macro" are two different things. The fact that you called it a "macro bot" demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about. (hint: macros aren't against the ELUA, bots are)


mining macros are also against it.
the difference between a macro and a bot is semantics at best. a bot it basically just a complicated macro.



Stop talking. You are wrong.

If you actually read his blog you will understand how he does it.
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#35 - 2012-10-18 20:33:27 UTC
What blog? I'd find it an interesting read.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-10-18 23:35:35 UTC
wtb macro bot?

That's a really big bot, right? Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Ken Sunji
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-10-19 00:49:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ken Sunji
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
There's others like this too. This might be the biggest one I've ever seen though.

Still, there's probably at least 2,000-3,000 bots mining just ice logged in at all times. There's a reason why the server count rises very quickly right after downtime, despite being during EU work/US sleep hours.

At least a quarter of the players online at any given time are bots.



Not exactly the case. Remember that DT is in the AU primetime... during the winter anyway.
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2012-10-19 03:38:01 UTC
The WIS uses command clone software to work all the clients at once.
Basically the digital version of chopsticks and hotglue.
He is also a nice guy though he has a certain untouchability.
You can war dec him and kill him if you are fast(been there tried unknowingly, he jumped to npc corp) but then you will be known as the guy who killed a 26 multiboxing ice miner who was told to suicide.


Besides let the goons do it.
Less trouble on your behalf and you get more fireworks.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#39 - 2012-10-19 04:22:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
Ken Sunji wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
There's others like this too. This might be the biggest one I've ever seen though.

Still, there's probably at least 2,000-3,000 bots mining just ice logged in at all times. There's a reason why the server count rises very quickly right after downtime, despite being during EU work/US sleep hours.

At least a quarter of the players online at any given time are bots.



Not exactly the case. Remember that DT is in the AU primetime... during the winter anyway.

People from those timezones make up a relatively small percentage of the EVE population. The server count jumps to 20,000 within an hour, and ends at the same amount at downtime. Not all of those people are from the Pacific timezones, and while a bunch of Euros and Americans sign in right after downtime, the numbers still don't add up.

If you follow bots and botters to some degree, you know that most of them don't try to make their bots emulate realistic behavior. They simply set them up to maximize profit. You might feel inclined to disagree with me here based on how terrible the implications of what I say are, and I sympathize with you, but the fact of the matter is that a huge portion of all online characters at any given time consists of bots. In fact, the numbers I gave above might be a conservative estimate. That's how bad it is.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Ken Sunji
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-10-19 05:56:40 UTC
Yeah fair call, just something to factor in into your statement, which by the sounds you have Cool
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