Player Features and Ideas Discussion

How long do you think it would take them to actually balance ships after screwing up their weapon system? I'm quite new to this game so I don't know, but my friend said it usually takes CCP 6 years to actually "fix" things they broke. I don't think many people are happy to wait that long for their beloved stuff to get fixed.

What if we ask for a bit of Drake/Tengu/Nighthawk buff on DPS/Range to balance it because the nerf was too much? Obviously CCP won't listen and trolls will troll.

That's what we get, Ellen Stavinski. If you don't like it, I'd honestly recommend you to quit, don't listen to those trolls, they will say something like "don't cry, quit already, no one cares", they only are trying to hold you back from quitting so you can feed them more.

Don't pay for something you don't enjoy and don't feed the trolls.

I recommend you quit too.

HM's will still be the leaders of their group. but if they're nerfed too much for u then train other weapons rather than quitting. there is more to eve than caldari missile boats.

wow were to start. lets just hit main points i think. first great job ccp you killed all lvl 4 mission running for all but 3 very expensive bs, that means all people how depend on missions to fund there acounts and dont have those specific skills for them are screwed. how many of your paying cutomers is that i wonder. 50-60% maybe more
all your sleeper part timer's will now be looking for new mmo as well since they cant or wont want to take time to train for the new system that they will worked fine. and with that will leave eve. so now that drop intrest in people getting into dust because of these poor development choices. that in turn will put people off on any new ventures you come up with outside of eve. because of your poor managment skills. lol man are you guys really trying to kill your whole company????? there's still time to fix these issues and get eve back to the game we all know and love. please stop the madness

If this were true it would be absolute 100% proof that HML needs a nerf.

it is true with new drone agrssion rules fly those big ravens in to those lvl4 get scramed with no way to get out . ill salvage you wrecks with a kronos when you die. before you start trolling you should realy learn more game and damage mechanics.

I never afk missions. i use drone navi's and active missions. i hate sentry drones. so i'd still be f****ed. If it turns out do-able when the update comes i'll be ok. otherwise my fave ship the gila is useless to me.

there is no drawing aggro anymore. my gila fit right now can tank like 550 dps and give out 690 dps. i love it.
I have light missile to get aggro but from what i know aggro is changing. you won't pull aggro the rats on missions change aggro.

I have a mim alt with T2 large guns. but I love my main. I'm a gllante man! ha

will just have to train a kronos....

learn to sentry. rattlers or domis are better because they can tank better and push out more dps (the rattler especially). dnt expect ur gila to be able to do everything.

HML are, atm, the only missilesystem in MEDIUM or LARGE size which is actually WORKING for Caldari missile ships. I agree with you there are more types: HAM, Torps and CM. Torps work in bombers, thats it. The others simply dont work in Caldari missile ships. With "working" I mean being on par with their peers or being better in certain aspects while not sucking completely in others.

For gunnery its mostly accepted nearly every medium and large system works, although medium long range guns are outshined in certain ranges by HML right now.

So atm we have this picture:

Medium short range: gunnery wins

Medium long range: missile wins

Large short range: gunnery wins

Large long range: gunnery wins (and gunnery wins there by a margin you dont even see missiles at all)

I think, tbh, this is not balanced. I furthermore think this will be even worse after the patch. Thats because I dont see yet HAM will take the top then in medium short range. But if it does NOT, then gunnery wins all the 4, since HML will get nerfed ... remember: there is no reason to use something which is not at least on par.

While I agree with the fact HML is best in its class in ranges of 35km til max missile ranges it still suffers the delayed damage which *is* an issue on longer ranges. When you warp all in air missiles will miss, and thats when you push the "warp" button, not when you actually warp where it makes sense. Thats not the same with gunnery for example ..

Lets face it. Right now there is only one option for Caldari missile users in PvP medium or large hulls. Thats HML. If this system will get screwed AND HAM will not take a leading place in medium short range (which I doubt it will), then Caldari missile PvP in medium and large hulls is dead until they rebalance again.

I dont think this is the way to go. And many others here agree with me.

Just imagine again, please. Its like taking all useful gunnery options of a certain race, without giving anything back and just say "we have to do this so we can balance everything around that sometime later". One difference though - you can still use ALL your gunnery support skills, and simply train another gunnery tree and the ships which are needed.