EVE General Discussion

RNG is a ***** in WoT...but you can live with it if you consistently hit weak point on tanks.

EVE's RNG involvement in combat is minimal since so many factors such as signature radius and tracking speed contribute more so than RNG does. Same way you can compensate for WoT's RNG by always aiming for weak spots and thin armor in EVE you can effect the damage by flying the ship properly. Make the enemy miss more by doing the "spiral" and keep them from moving too much with a web :D

And then there's the micro around cap management and module overheating to take into account. Especially when neuts are around. Since cap recharge isn't linear boosting yourself at the right time can mean the difference between survival and death (I'd assume boosting yourself to about 33% would be best).

To further highlight the importance of this I elect that the ship that you both fly, in the challenge I listed above, be executioners with a neut and cap booster each and that as a part of the "equal training plan" you both train thermodynamics and nanite operation.

So it's actually not particularly popular even among the people who play the game…

“Thousands”… that's alliance tournament numbers — pretty sorry for a game that has sold some five million copies and been pirated almost as much.

Oh, and the question kind of remains: why shouldn't CCP cater to those of us who understand or appreciate PvP in EVE just because you don't?

Look at what you just said....do you have any idea how much games like SC2 rely on that exact same mechanic? In SC2 a Sentry with perfect timing of a Guardian Shield can make or break the game. Or what about a toggling the transformation of a Viking? Or an Immortal turning on Hardened Shield? I'm sure many in EVE would argue that to being comparable to overheating your repper and hardeners.

Would you even acknowledge the validity of the challenge I mentioned to prove a point? If the results are even then you'll have won your argument about the RNG meaning more than skill, if there is a heavy bias to the more experienced player then clearly there is more to it than you think....especially if both players run with identical ships and skills.

You realise that you said thousands watch these matches… just like the ATs. Oh, and by the way, when EVE PvP matches are held live, people show up in… pretty much as many as the venue will fit. “Thousands” for a game as popular as SC2 is pretty pathetic.

The thread is about you complaining that CCP is catering to interests you don't have but others do. So the question remains: why should they not cater to those who have that insight and interest just because you don't?

you are talking about several different units that you have to control the abilities and movements of while at the same time managing everything else. In eve, there is only one unit. It is not hard at all.

fine i acknowledge it. Of course RNG isn't everything. But its there.

I noticed you Nerf Burger failing to answer the quite highly relevant question raised in this post. Please do so for your arguement to have any semblence of meaning beyond 'WHAAAA, CCP STOP DOING STUFF I DONT LIKE!!!!'

On a seperate note I actually prefer the slower pace of eve combat simply because it doesnt force me to develop RSI inducing mouse click speeds or force me to memorise largely unimportant lists of things that only relate to one specific way to play the game. Pretty much everything I've ever learned about eve combat has been useful to me no matter what ship ive been flying at the time.

Sounds like league of legends or Dota, pretty sure they have a solid fan base.

Have a look at Owned streams and tell me which is more popular, micro intensive RTS (i.e. SC2) or I control one unit and press 4 buttons MOBAS.

I think this should prove to you that a lack of micro-management means nothing in terms of how viable a game is to become an e-sport.

Indeed. SC2 isn't particularly hard in terms of its controls.

You know, if you'd like for anyone to actually think you had the slightest idea of what you are talking about you'd use an alt that actually had a combat record of some sort.

So far the only impression you've made is that you have zero understanding of how combat actually works in EVE, and might (it's a stretch) have run a mission or two.

Credibility zero.

Try again? Or continue to try and milk your troll?

I want a 250vs 250 alliance tournament :(