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Ivy Romanova

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Caldari State

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#1 - 2012-10-17 18:11:20 UTC | Edited by: Ivy Romanova

As the titles says.
I just bought myself a tengu a few days back, because I heard they are crazy fast, tank thousands of dps , dish out BC damage and have one of the highest survivablity on the Battlefield.
WELL!
To be frank.. I think not...
I am barely dishing out 300 dps atm , only has an ehp of 35k.
Thats even worse than my Drake.
While on Battleclinic, I see people dishing out 1200 dps+ , and even tankier than a Skiff.

SO HERE IS THE QUESTION!
What is the minimum SP for which categories of skills should a newbie Tengu pilot should have , before he even thinks about hopping into one and go pew pew pvp style in it?

Here is my stats according to EFT 2.16

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Jim Era Likes received: 10,663	#2 - 2012-10-17 18:13:36 UTC 4 the answer is 4 Wat™

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Zhade Lezte Likes received: 134	#3 - 2012-10-17 18:14:11 UTC Accelerated Ejection Bay Subsystem

True Slave Foundations 2,480
Tiberious Thessalonia True Slave Foundations Likes received: 2,480	#4 - 2012-10-17 18:14:36 UTC 21 It would be helpful to see your fit before we can tell you why you are bad.

Holy Amarrian Battlemonk Crimson Inquisicion 25
Katsami Holy Amarrian Battlemonk Crimson Inquisicion Likes received: 25	#5 - 2012-10-17 18:15:05 UTC \| Edited by: Katsami Place hundreds of PLEX in the cargo. -All Subsystems to 4 (Offensive to 5) -Missile Supports to 4 -Tech II HAM/HML

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Taiwanistan Likes received: 322	#6 - 2012-10-17 18:15:16 UTC Stupid or trolling? TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."

Metal Icarus

Star Frontiers

Brotherhood of Spacers

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#7 - 2012-10-17 18:22:43 UTC

Sig tanking with a 10mn afterburner with kinetic HMLs can get you almost 700 dps with lvl 5 offensive subsystem.

Sig tanking at 500m/s is what gives you the ability to offset 99% of incoming damage (everything that does a ton of damage misses, beware of battlecrusiers). The tengu does NOT have the ability to tank like a drakes does, and a drake does not have the ability to sig tank like a tengu does.

keep moving, avoid webs, kill BC's first

Rouge drones is an entirely different story.... (I LOST MY TENGU a couple days ago in a 5/10 rouge drone anom.... /sob)

Space Mutiny 1,972
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny Likes received: 1,972	#8 - 2012-10-17 18:25:20 UTC 1 newbie Tengu pilot = not tengu pilot.

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Kobal81 HR.. Likes received: 86	#9 - 2012-10-17 18:31:25 UTC 2 Only 300 DPS? Confirming your skills are sh*. "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit"*

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Hypercake Mix Likes received: 146	#10 - 2012-10-17 18:34:53 UTC Too lazy to calculate the actual number, but you definitely want to have strong skills (many level 5s and 4s) before even considering any Tech 3 ship. Also, where are you getting your numbers from? Most 3rd party calculations just report raw vacuum dps. Also, inb4 thread moved.

Aliastra Gallente Federation 521
Mortimer Civeri Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 521	#11 - 2012-10-17 18:36:14 UTC Taiwanistan wrote: Stupid or trolling? Some from column A, some from column B. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

Ivy Romanova

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Caldari State

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#12 - 2012-10-17 18:37:24 UTC

Kobal81 wrote:

Only 300 DPS? Confirming your skills are sh**.

ofc my skills are ****, but I don't want to go around wasting time on useless skills that'll be marginal at helping me becoming an effective tengu pilot.
Thats why I'm here to ask for advice :O

The Troll Bridge 23,523
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge Likes received: 23,523	#13 - 2012-10-17 18:37:39 UTC 5 Your first mistake was Tengu. Your second mistake was admitting to owning Tengu. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*

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Mai Khumm 172.0.0.1 Likes received: 879	#14 - 2012-10-17 18:39:00 UTC \| Edited by: CCP Falcon Trolling removed - CCP Falcon

Ivy Romanova

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#15 - 2012-10-17 18:40:23 UTC

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Your first mistake was Tengu. Your second mistake was admitting to owning Tengu.

why?
I got it from a bargain in Jita?
The ship was only 30 mil below market price :O
I guess since HML is getting nerfed soon, and I won't be using them on a Tengu, its not gonna affect me as bad.
Perfect time to jump onto the T3 wagon... or so I thought.

Epic Ganking Time CODE. 3,461
Gogela Epic Ganking Time CODE. Likes received: 3,461	#16 - 2012-10-17 18:42:07 UTC 1 You should fit more salvagers. Signatures should be used responsibly...

Robert De'Arneth

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#17 - 2012-10-17 18:42:53 UTC

Well to be frank, unless you have good skills that go with any ship you fly, you will be crap. Look at recomended certs and use that as your plan, you will need others, but the certs will keep you busy for a while. Simple rule just beause you can fly a hull, does not mean you should. And if you have crap support skills on a hull, you are just flying the hull not using it.

Also, on an ship or mod question, you would get more help if you went to the ship mod forum.

So advice, learn the differance between flying a hull and using a hull. Big smile

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack! I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite.

Metal Icarus

Star Frontiers

Brotherhood of Spacers

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#18 - 2012-10-17 18:45:56 UTC

Ivy Romanova wrote:

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Your first mistake was Tengu. Your second mistake was admitting to owning Tengu.

Well, it is a great time to enjoy their power before they get nerfed, thus pay less for them. In the future, after it had been nerfed, HAMs will be used over HMLs. I think that they will be more effective as well.

Ivy Romanova

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#19 - 2012-10-17 18:46:12 UTC

Robert De'Arneth wrote:

To fill in all the certs on the CORE and Missiles and stuff will take me at least 2 more years Shocked

Is there a faster way around this?

You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3,946
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack Likes received: 3,946	#20 - 2012-10-17 18:46:23 UTC Metal Icarus wrote: The tengu does NOT have the ability to tank like a drakes does That's weird. The PvE fit I came up with has a flat 1176 DPS tank against Guristas with 566 DPS on HMs. Guess I'm doing it wrong. Oh god.