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frommishj
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-10-17 05:58:03 UTC
I'm writing a speech about how we need to switch our view points on Space programs. I know that the private industry is starting to take over and there is little government support. The problem I am having on it though is what can we do about it? The average person might look to the stars and not think twice about it. Eve has the idea of shooting for the stars. Launching the pod up to the upper atmosphere was amazing. But what are we able to do to continue this drive so exploration in space?
Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#2 - 2012-10-17 06:05:01 UTC
I think privatising the space program was an excellent idea. not only will it drive competition, but it will drive the tech. Likely governments will still endevor their own programs but we wont be limited with just them doing it.

I personally think we have taken a major step forward
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#3 - 2012-10-17 06:05:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
frommishj wrote:
I'm writing a speech about how we need to switch our view points on Space programs. I know that the private industry is starting to take over and there is little government support. The problem I am having on it though is what can we do about it? The average person might look to the stars and not think twice about it. Eve has the idea of shooting for the stars. Launching the pod up to the upper atmosphere was amazing. But what are we able to do to continue this drive so exploration in space?

Make it neccessary.

A little more carbon here, a few more wars there. At some point we'll have to consider our own demise and make some headway into looking for a new home.

Just chugging through a book on this very topic by what appears to be a fairly savvy futurist. His point being, if we don't start thinking about it, by the time we do realise we've messed things up on Mother Earth good and proper, it'll be too late.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#4 - 2012-10-17 06:11:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Develop cold fusion and thus make reaching into space practical. Mining H3 would be the driving business of space and make further exploration possible. Can't do it while we are starving for energy, just not practical. Various countries are investing in fusion research while NASA is developing more advanced propulsion which is also necessary for such a venture. So in time, space exploration will be reachable by human means.

Nothing political about it, no scare tactics, we just need the science.

I'm in it for the money

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2012-10-17 06:32:03 UTC
Have more people play Kerbal Space Program would be helpful too.

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Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#6 - 2012-10-17 06:43:18 UTC
Well if you line in USA, then good first step would be stop teaching pseudo sciences in shoolc like "intelligent design"....

Personally i see private competition to space as healty. It drives development. Goverment agencies has one bad quality about them, they overdo things very very easily. Budject reasons, etc....

Heck we now have computers that outperforms computers from apollo moonlanding time by millions... And we still havent managed to get back to moon.

We humans as race could do so much better... But we waste all that potential to ways to come up to kill eachothers..

If for one year all that military spending would be put in science and actually helping people, world would be better place for all of us.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#7 - 2012-10-17 06:49:44 UTC
We can buy tickets when they start selling. I know I would (try to at least).

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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#8 - 2012-10-17 11:37:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirjava
Bake Sale?

Seriously though ESA needs to kick it up a notch, fund Skylon properly and develop Columbus into the core of a news Space Station. Develop mining of reactants on the moon and set up a supply chain, mine reactants on the moon and ship it to the station, lift payload from Earth to Columbus and fuelled by the reserves.

That should get us into position for developing our lead in Antimatter and having a full design proposal for Daedelus, an interstellar probe so we can go take a look at the planetary system in Alpha Centaurai B. D

A spaceship could be built for a mission to Mars here and fuelled by the stockpile, get us to Mars and we can get to the asteroids and mine baby mine. Some of the M class ones are the size of the Scottish lowlands and have more metal than humanity has ever cared to consider extracting from Earth. Boom, raw material becomes near infinite and cheap like energy has become which allows the possibility of orbital solar power plants to beam electricity back to earth. Then we have cheap energy and raw materials, Hydroponics and water osmosis become competitive and viable.

World poverty, hunger and thirst are solved.

This is the best case scenario I can concoct, the flip side is that whichever power gets there first will be like Spain in the 1500's : nearly an uncontested power.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#9 - 2012-10-17 13:19:47 UTC
No one will fund any kind of space program unless the Kardashians want to go to a holiday on the moon. Sorry, but thats how things work these days. Welcome to the future.

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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#10 - 2012-10-17 16:45:36 UTC
Space program's are a waste of money.

FYI : we're already in space.

The day slavery, bigotry and all other sorts of hatred and explotation no longer exist, you have my permission to strap yourselves into a phallic shaped ego extension and explore something you are already a part of.

Until then, perhaps there are other more important things to occupy the minds of scientists.

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Jim Era
#11 - 2012-10-17 16:55:49 UTC
I do my part to cause as much pollution as I possibly (and comfortably) can so that we may hasten the day that we have to search for other places to live.

Wat™
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#12 - 2012-10-17 17:31:06 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
No one will fund any kind of space program unless the Kardashians want to go to a holiday on the moon. Sorry, but thats how things work these days. Welcome to the future.


I support sending all faux-lebrities into deep space and/or into the sun to avoid any more reality shows about them being produced.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-10-17 17:38:50 UTC
The demand for communication, GPS, etc. satellites just keeps growing. So it seems like the private sector has a commercial incentive to do practical space program stuff. (They may have to figure out some way to clean out all the space junk sitting in the prime orbit spots, though). But for space exploration projects with no immediate practical/money-making applications, though.... It's hard see how the private sector would be at all interested in that.

Maybe for your speech you could do some research on the issue of pure science vs. applied science. That's a debate that's been around for many years-- what's the value of investing in pure science that's just for gaining theoretical knowledge, and not some practical benefit? There might be some arguments for pure science that could apply to space exploration.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#14 - 2012-10-17 17:49:15 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
There is nothing interesting out there for politics. But be sure, if they will find oil or stockpile of p.o.r.n on mars, all funds will go into space program again :D


on the serious note...

I agree that space tourism is the future of space travel. We are not far from cheap suborbital flights. And its mater of time when private space programs will develop cheap method for orbital and moon flights for mass tourism.

100 years ago, tourism to Antarctica or on the top of Everest was possible only in dreams. Now there are many travel agencies that can arrange it for you and you dont need to sell your kidney and all kidneys of your family and neighbours to achieve that.

We are only at the begining. A mankind just started to evolve. 100.000 years ago we were primitive hairy half-monkeys. we dont know what will evolution do with our brains in the next milion years. Earth is 4.500.000.000 years old. Man started to use tools 3.000.000 years ago 200 years ago we though that earth is the center of all existence . Now, we are exploring secrets of quantum world and distant universe.

Its hard to imagine what will be next 100 years, but our sun will shine next 4,5-5B years. We have a plenty of time to sovle all the problems of the world and to start expanding our species to the stars. And that is only possible with the science and knowlege.

I am an optimist. I think that relics like creationism or human greed will pass and mankind will be more focused to understand the "realm" we live in.

amen.

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