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Is that afk guy in local bother you?

The solution is simple make the afk guy disappear from local when he cloaks.


There now he won't be bother you now won't you?

Seriously AFK Cloaking is only as bad is the mind allows it to be.

The only people I see whining are ratters and botters who want to mine in complete safety in 0.0.

HTFU.

oh yes, +1 to the idea,

lets force those afk crybabies to do some PvP while they are in nullsec


PS. It will never happen tho, afk cloakers are usually 4th, or 5th account of the same guy, its pure profit for CCP, hence they will not address this issue. Just deal with it i guess :P

ofc cloakers who cry at every attempt to target their immunity in nullsec. Theres a place for this way of playstyle in eve --> Hisec

you can stay there for ages without anyone targeting you, dont even have to turn on cloak ^^

I've always been of the opinion that the proposed local changes are too much. The idea of a black-ops cyno jammer I see no problem with, except that It wouldn't stop people whining about cloakies.

I spent all yesterday evening chasing and camping four cloakies. Some of them were almost definitely afk, and they rarely moved about. It does get a little tedious, but we got one of them, and I am more than happy to chase the others around for Home Defence purposes. I've always laughed at people complaining about them, because I've had to deal with people doing it since very early in my Eve career and never really had any problems with them. It always infuriates me that people just come straight to the forums to whine that there is "No counter to afk cloaking".

If anyone needs a ticket back to bloody hisec its the nullbears who cry their eyes out because - gasp - another player is in the same system as they are. The fact that you want CCP to introduce mechanics that will allow you to kill AFK players is utterly idiotic, and it speaks volumes about how bad of a player you are. You can't fight someone who's active, so you want CCP to give you a kill button on players who aren't there. What's next, you want them to let you kill players who are docked? Ones who are logged off?

If you can't deal with that little name in local, get the hell out of nullsec because you are terrible and have no claim to the rewards of 0.0

Noone says its as simple as putting probes and scanning cloakers down in 5 sec, clearly rage hinders your ability to
see the problem here and what the solutions proposed are.

And so far the afk cloakers are worst cowards in nullsec, carebears coming to null know they may be forced to fight,
cloakers dont have to bother with that. No to afk living in null i say :P

Can you read, fella? I never inferred your (terrible) "solution" to be a very quick and easy 5-second probe job, the points I made hold true even if your (terrible) "solution" is a much longer and more complicated process.

The bottom line is it interferes with legitimate, active reconnaissance pilots, while doing nothing to actual AFK players (ps AFK players are effectively none-entities, there is no need to do anything to them in the first place).

Ignorance of the activities, how they work, how long they take and how your (terrible) "solution" would ruin them can be excused - I can hardly expect a stupid carebear who does nothing but mine or shoot rats to understand such things, after all. Reconnaissance takes time. It's not unusual for an active scout to sit in one location for extended periods of time, whether thats sitting at a tower watching a fleet form and relaying information or waiting in a particular strategic location ready to decloak and grab something, or act as a warp in, or whatever.

As for calling afk cloakers "cowards"... that simply does not make sense. Venturing out into real life and leaving the computer game is not some act of "cowardice". It's just something we (well, most of us) do. And as there is literally nothing they can do to anyone still in game there is no issue. They are not there. They can't hurt you. They're not "cowards". They're not anything. They're none-entities. The fact that you're so terrified of them is pathetic. Go back to hisec.

How many times now have you purposefully ignored the arguments against your silly ideas based on how they ruin legitimate activities of active players?

I'm not going to bother repeating them because you clearly can't refute any of them.

High sec space is that way ->

Remove afk cloaking? No. Theres been 0 good reasons to do it. Cloaking is part of this game and it is working atm.

Why is this thread still going on?

Here's how it is:

An afk cloaker, is afk. So he is not doing ANYTHING. So why does he bother you? Simple answer, because your scared that he WILL do something.

Now there are already very good counters to AFK cloakers, you can set up a standing fleet so you can get a quick warp in on anyone who is attacked by him, you can specifically bait and kill him, or better yet, you can move next door to do your ratting/mining whatever. If he follows you to next door, then he's not afk and thus all your stupid argument against the afk cloakers are invalid.

People need to use a little logic. I don't get how people can be so dense and unthinking. There is literally no reason to change afk cloaking.



Are you kidding? You want anyone who cloaks to pay for fuel and be fine with that. Also, lets not forget the fact that if they run out of fuel for any reason the cloak is completely useless. Let me say it again, there is no good reason to change cloaking anyway.