Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Currently the UI is extremely cryptic about which player behaviors will cause inventory location windows to open separately and which player behaviors will cause inventory locations to overwrite the existing inventory window.

For example: looting a wreck. Pushing Loot All button will sometimes cause the window to remain and begin showing the contents of Cargo. Other times the window will disappear. What needs to be done to get the game to do one thing or the other is non-obvious. Another example: sometimes if the inventory window is open showing Cargo, and a Ship Maintenance Array is opened, the Cargo window disappears and begins showing the contents of the Array. Other times it does not, and two windows appear, even if SHIFT was not pressed when opening the Array. (as an aside, having to press SHIFT by default to open a new window is really poor design! The access buttons should not require modifiers by default.)

Please give us a universal way for the player to open inventory windows such that they will not suddenly begin showing other places in the inventory. Let it be obvious and expected when that is about to happen. Let us be able to, for example, pin the Cargo window in a certain location such that, when Cargo is opened, it always forms a new window in this location without having to SHIFT click. And also such that other inventory windows not showing Cargo will not suddenly begin to show Cargo, even if Cargo is not currently visible when they do this. And let us be able to do that for every inventory location, not just Cargo.

In short, give us the old inventory window functionality back.

I think this is going to be a good winter.

If these proposed improvements make it into the Winter release, I for one, will be a very happy chap. :)

When is the option to highlight multiple containers and right clicking them and choosing "Open Container (52)" and them opening up in a stack of windows going to be available? It's still an option in the right click menu but only opens one container in it's own window.

This is a vital function and the fact it hasn't been fixed in 5 months is what's been keeping me from playing and doing what I really enjoy, which is manufacturing.. Because right now, filling GSC's is a nightmare, trying to keep track of which container you're on without having that stack open, and being able to close the ones I've filled as I fill them ... What used to take me 30 minutes, now takes over an hour.

Oh and yes, almost forgot, give me the option to turn off that my ship moves toward a container I am not within range of if I do something that would trigger me trying to open it. If I am not in range, just put up a message telling me that, and I'll either ignore it or fly myself within range, I don't want a misclick on open container from a distance to start moving my ship for me anymore.

The inventory system is really irritating. The more complex the object you are moving stuff between the more annoying it is.
I find myself pulling windows out just to move stuff about (like the old system).
e.g. moving stuff between corp hangers, your hanger and an orca's hangers whilst also having my fitting window up.
I have to expand the inventory system up full height of the screen which overlaps other windows and you still end up scrolling up and down.
Everyone in my corp hates it too.

First, and most importantly, thank you for the communication and the opportunity to provide feedback.

BUT I need to ask the question: how can we -- as clients and active participants in this project -- trust CCP to follow through on legitimate feedback provided?

We gave CCP a ton of use-case based feedback before the revised UI was released back in May of this year and we were ignored. We gave CCP even more feedback and use-case based testing in the weeks following the Inferno release and we were given lip service and falsehoods by your lead designer (he who shall not be named). UI-related defects have remained open, unfiltered and unaddressed for *months* at this point.

So, how is this Fall's project work and CCP - client interaction different? Why should we invest our time reviewing your work when very recent history shows that CCP places extraordinary little value on its customers' time and experience with their product?

Here's one for you.

The fitting management window can, as a selectable option, use the inventory area shown in the main inventory window. Be it a can, the cargo hold of a ship, a corporate hangar slot, whatever. All unfitted items go into that slot, new ones come from it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=163987

Check out this forum post regarding our Duality Test server. There you can try out our latest Inventory UI work and give us feedback.

Getting our feature work out to a test server this early will enable us to address and respond to feedback and issues before the Retribution release goes out in December.

Thanks for the heads up - will take look tomorrow.

I would like to be able to turn the whole 'open on mouse hover' behavior completely off.

The coming changes sound great.