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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-10-08 09:08:39 UTC
When I gained my freedom, I detested the Amarr pure and simple. In a sea of raised fists, I was just another face in the crowd; we stood a unity of discontented Minmatar joined in a univocal cry of rage.

My first thoughts when I took up arms were not of kin... I simply hated. I felt disgusted by the Empire, by their allies in the State - who of at the time I knew absolutely nothing. My heart yearned for revenge. My fists desired to strike a blow to the Empire as it had to my youth.

I was not alone... many of us were in this together, Minmatar collectively rallied behind this banner of kinship. But we were never there for our people, only to carry out a vendetta against a people we did not take the time to understand. It was a cruel lie I couldn't remain a part of.

Over the last two years, I have gotten better... Now, do I care for my people? Of course I do, which is why I share any knowledge I can with my kin, why I desire a higher focus on infrastructure in the Republic, why I wish for a peaceful resolution between the Republic and the Empire. I'm sickened looking back at the destructive creature that I was - that many of my brothers still are.

You come 'for your people', but our people are at home, many living out their lives of poverty.

Yet... I have continued to stress that 'our people' being returned from the Empire is a good thing, and for that I apologize, I have not been completely honest.

My heart has never been in it. On one hand, I have commended the efforts of freedom fighters, but on the same turn I have stressed how harmful a unilinear release would be to both the Empire and the Minmatar. I have raised concerns that many Minmatar do take up the faith and desire to stay within the Empire. I have criticized severely the war effort and the senseless causalities on both sides that are catalyzed mostly by the Republic.

Yet still as I've spun argument after argument about why we should focus inwardly, towards the homestead, I've continued to be stone-faced, I've continued to say 'but of course, it's imperative that we free our brothers and sisters in binds'. And it's a painful reality for me to swallow, especially as a woman free only because of the efforts of freedom fighters, but... No. No, we shouldn't. We need to stop this.

We've caused too much suffering. I can't continue to watch Minmatar rip other Minmatar from their homes, denounce their faith and inflict violence upon each other. I can't deny that the pain that I feel when I work with victims of the war in slums across the cluster is getting on top of me - because I know that it is the fault of Minmatar, not Amarr, that these people are in such grievous conditions.

You have hungry families to feed. Feed them. Do not destroy others' families in the name of a war we lost almost a millennium ago.

I'm sorry. I didn't want to upset anybody. I tried to go through the motions, but I can't abide this anymore. I'm sorry for lying, again and again.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2012-10-08 10:33:26 UTC
The understanding that domestic stability is more important than vengeance is, regrettably, a hard choice for those who have been or see themselves as the victims of abuse. I cannot understand your former feelings of hatred, as I have never been in the situations to which you allude, so I can only say that it must have taken a lot to come to the conclusions that you have posted here.

In this modern age, as with the pre-global nations of each of our nations, it is becoming harder and harder to stratify culture by race. In my opinion this is a good thing, but for nations with such a clash of ideologies and active war over them, the Amarr and Minmatar 'alien' elements in the Republic and Empire seem to endure an almost unparalleled level of incidental hatred or displacement based on their genetic heritage. It is going to take a lot more than this epiphany to even dent the issue of racial profiling (be it well-meant 'return them home' sentiment or negative 'inferior race' ideologies) but it is a start.

Thank you for sharing, Halete, and I hope that this has helped you as much as I hope it helps more like you realize the futility of continuing to see race as a descriptor of one's true home.

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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-10-08 17:58:13 UTC
Thank-you for your response, Aelisha. It wasn't easy for me. I really do hope that this will sway the perspectives of at least some of my kin, but I know that it is going to take a lot more than one person's epiphany for us to see progress.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-10-08 18:59:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Telegram Sam
I very much appreciate your sentiment, Ms. Halete. We Minmatar can't claim that all of our troubles are caused by the Amarr. As no group of other people should ever simplistically use an outside group as a scapegoat for it's own faults. However, I think we do still need to be mindful of that fact that the Amarr still do hold many people in slavery. And they have given no indication that they regret this, or intend to rectify the situation.

Also, I believe we should be mindful that the Amarr are not a poor, small clan reliant on slave labor for their survival. Of the known Empire space solar systems, the Amarr Empire hold 702. That is close to double the 388 held by the next largest state, the Gallente Federation. We Minmatar somehow hold 280-- a surprising number, but we are still not much more than one-fourth the size of the Amarr Empire. The Amarr civilization dominates Empire space in size and wealth, and it is an old and refined civilization. Surely they have the wealth to employ free workers rather than coerced slaves, should they choose to do so. And their laws, literate and philosophical writings demonstrate sophistication enough to have contemplated the moral implications of holding fellow humans as bound chattel. A society that is sophisticated enough to develop vitoc is refined enough to know that using it on humans it is simply wrong.

So, though I do my best not to pre-judge individual Amarr, I do stand in judgment of the Amarr Empire as a whole. The biggest and wealthiest civilization of New Eden has little excuse for still holding slaves. I cannot find any economic, cultural, or moral justification at all for it. And their empire has so much comparative power that it needs continued watching and opposition.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#5 - 2012-10-08 20:33:08 UTC
This is called maturity, Ms. Halete.

Treasure it, for it won't steer you wrong.

But Sam's right, too, after a fashion.

We need to stop blaming the Amarr for...well...everything, but that doesn't mean we should stop watching them. Very closely watching them.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#6 - 2012-10-08 23:58:09 UTC
Yes, fighting for some giant "liberation" under the form of a mass deportation of ex-slaves from the Empire to the Republic is indeed silly, and nothing of the kind will ever happen. However...

Just like you or I are free to go live in the Amarr Empire if we want, our distant brothers in chains in the Empire should have the choice to live in the Republic. They do not.

That is what we fight for, the basic human right of free will. Of course, focusing 100% on such a fight is not fair to those back home, but completely focusing on those back home while forgetting about those who remain chained up is just as wrong. As in all things, balance is necessary.

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Amaki Mai
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-10-09 04:29:49 UTC
Halete, I salute your bravery in taking this stand. It is a shame that the Empire's version of it, the decision to take no more Slaves from outside our borders, isn't completely universally held yet, but I think it is a wise move and I hope the Empress resists any pressure that might be on her to rescind it - which she seems to be doing admirably.

It is my hope that the Reclaiming could be achieved with grain barges and missionaries where force has failed - but for such an approach to be seen as even sane there would have to be many changes and compromises in the relationship between our factions.

Captain Sam, I understand your feelings, but you must remember that to us Slavery isn't a simple economic principle. It is based on the core article of our Faith. If you don't share it, I don't see HOW you can understand it - but the key to ending Slavery is in the Faith of the Empire, failing your God is a terrible thing.

Captain Blackshell, I also understand your feelings, but I have to ask why a useless struggle aimed at impossible goals is preferable to a staged procession of interim goals. Your Freedom Fighters barely seem even aware that their biggest success to date was when the Cluster faced down the Empire and made them recognise the Republic as a legal faction, signing treaties that led to the pronouncement of a moratorium on legal Slaving outside the Empire.

Nothing you have done since has been so significant.

A large number of Slaves of Minmatar descent were recently released. We know the reception they got, the beatings at the hands of tribesmen who don't feel they should have the right to freely choose their own religion. The poor conditions in the refugee camps. There is little to encourage the expectation that further releases would lead to happy endings for those that chose to settle in the Republic, rather than the Empire and the Federation.
Ugleb
Jotunn Risi
#8 - 2012-10-10 18:42:26 UTC
Economic prosperity has no relevance upon the issue of liberty. None at all.

If the economic status of the Republic today means that we should cease our efforts to liberate more of our kin, then it was a mistake to liberate anyone at in the past decade. The Empyrean War between the four empires began less than five years ago, but in recent years the Republic has arguably grown stronger compared to the earlier days of the Capsuleer age.

In YC108, a great exodus was under way of Minmatar leaving the failing Republic to settle in the booming Gallente Federation. The economic situation has improved in recent years despite the ongoing war. The Empyrean War affects all four nations and impacts upon civilian life across all borders.

Although the Amarr are the largest nation, they have not in recent times been the wealthiest nation. That was the Federation, although its economic boom was ended by the Caldari military successes in the early days of the conflict. And despite the relative wealth of both nations, neither has succeeded in eliminating poverty or affecting a uniformly high standard of living amongst their populace.

In all nations there are those living in extreme hardship, even if the corporations who employ them make record profits, the lot of their lowliest workers often has not improved. This is not exclusively a Matari problem, consider the Caldari Megacorporations and the workers revolution that enabled Tibus Heth to be catapulted from obscurity into power.

In all nations the downtrodden can be found, but it is in Amarr that they are bound to remain there. Which is where Halete would likely still be if she had not been liberated. Despite economical concerns. Liberty and the freedom to choose one's own path and better their lot must never be subject to the budgetary constraints of politics.

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Lyskal Oskold
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-10-11 08:49:42 UTC
The Republic needs balance, which is obvious. Although it saddens me that the images of slaver hounds disemboweling men, women and children, of reproduction camps and slave crews on Amarr warships... It saddens me that you would look on your own nation with such an outlook yet seek to uplift the opposition in your own eyes. Is it because you feel you need a neutral outlook to feel mature and wise? Every Minmatar descendant who lives happily in the Empire has been indoctrinated, every Ammatar who seeks the blood of their free kin was brainwashed by Amarr.

While I do applaud your new found outlook on life, I find myself skeptical. Maybe it's because I was freed later than you it's still fresh in my mind. Maybe because I fly for the TLF and regularly have to shift slaves out of disgusting conditions to those 'horrible' refugee camps you mention, I find your words don't hold much merit. I am all for peace and a stop to the war, how about a compromise? They educate the slaves about their actual history then give them a choice whether they want to leave or not. That way the lost can choose to stay and we can get our people back. The Amarr religion says it wants to uplift all of man, tell that to the women constantly being impregnated then having their children taken off them.

The question I have to ask is, why do you feel the Amarr should get away with what they've done? Because that is what you're advocating, like it or not. To forgive and forget is a beautiful thing, however to treat our remaining kin who want to be freed as 'cutting our loses' is disgusting.

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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-10-11 09:15:33 UTC
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
While I do applaud your new found outlook on life...


But it isn't new.

Lyskal Oskold wrote:
I am all for peace and a stop to the war, how about a compromise?


The compromises you're advocating don't make sense and demonstrate a lack of effort to understand the Empire.

Lyskal Oskold wrote:
The Amarr religion says it wants to uplift all of man, tell that to the women constantly being impregnated then having their children taken off them.


Breeding slaves are a tragic problem and one of many. There is much I would like to see done about the treatment of slaves in the Empire. Your suggestions just aren't realistic.

Ugleb wrote:
Which is where Halete would likely still be if she had not been liberated.


I accept this.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Braitai
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-10-11 09:46:02 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Yes, fighting for some giant "liberation" under the form of a mass deportation of ex-slaves from the Empire to the Republic is indeed silly, and nothing of the kind will ever happen. However...

Just like you or I are free to go live in the Amarr Empire if we want, our distant brothers in chains in the Empire should have the choice to live in the Republic. They do not.

That is what we fight for, the basic human right of free will. Of course, focusing 100% on such a fight is not fair to those back home, but completely focusing on those back home while forgetting about those who remain chained up is just as wrong. As in all things, balance is necessary.


Well said. I will add that I was born a slave, and the battles that were fought to help free myself and others played no small part in gifting me the will to break what chains still remained to bind me.

I don't just fight the Amarr to gift my brothers and sisters the right to choose the way they live, but the strength of solidarity to take that right for themselves if they are able.
Lyskal Oskold
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-10-11 23:06:40 UTC
Halete wrote:
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
While I do applaud your new found outlook on life...


But it isn't new.

Lyskal Oskold wrote:
I am all for peace and a stop to the war, how about a compromise?


The compromises you're advocating don't make sense and demonstrate a lack of effort to understand the Empire.

Lyskal Oskold wrote:
The Amarr religion says it wants to uplift all of man, tell that to the women constantly being impregnated then having their children taken off them.


Breeding slaves are a tragic problem and one of many. There is much I would like to see done about the treatment of slaves in the Empire. Your suggestions just aren't realistic.

Ugleb wrote:
Which is where Halete would likely still be if she had not been liberated.


I accept this.


You condemn the Minmatar Republic for harming their own populace with their views and beliefs.
You "understand" the Amarr Empire for harming their own slaves and working classes with their views and beliefs.

Maybe the rage of a people wronged doesn't fit in with your new philosophical agenda, maybe it doesn't fit in with your logic, but it doesn't have to. Not everyone is willing to abandon our brothers and sisters to take the easy way out. We are the Republic, one of the four empires of New Eden. We won't be pushed around and abused simply because a few haughty Minmatar capsuleers have become lost and complacent.

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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-10-12 12:19:37 UTC
Lyskal, please. I won't be baited into responding to a blatant straw-man and I would expect better of you to resort to such deception.

Turning my attention on improving the lives of our people does not mean that I am 'lost'. Making myself a target for the contempt of millions of Freedom Fighters does not mean that I have taken the easy route. On the contrary, I have been walking the route of least resistance for far too long - a route which ultimately harms the Minmatar and I do wish that you too could appreciate that.

You are so young, so passionate. I hope that passion never fades but it does sting to see how you are using it.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Gussarde en Welle
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-10-15 21:38:44 UTC
Lyskal Oskold wrote:


You condemn the Minmatar Republic for harming their own populace with their views and beliefs.
You "understand" the Amarr Empire for harming their own slaves and working classes with their views and beliefs.

Maybe the rage of a people wronged doesn't fit in with your new philosophical agenda, maybe it doesn't fit in with your logic, but it doesn't have to. Not everyone is willing to abandon our brothers and sisters to take the easy way out. We are the Republic, one of the four empires of New Eden. We won't be pushed around and abused simply because a few haughty Minmatar capsuleers have become lost and complacent.



I am with you, Matari. Many other Gallente families that I know are. I think our two peoples should think about forming a closer alliance than we already have. If the Federation government weren't so spineless....



Horak Thor
Angry Mustellid
#15 - 2012-10-16 09:30:20 UTC
We come for our people because they have no hope.
We come for our people because it gives us hope to do so.
If we ignore the cries of 1/3rd of our populace, if we turn a blind eye to there pain, what sort of heartless people will we have become?

Can a healthy republic grow with the constant fear of Amarrian resurgence? No. Militarily politically or culturally we must put our self's in a position where our children and there children can grow up free of war and the fear of war.

What do I believe is more important poverty at home or those enslaved? They are a matter of equal importance.

The republic spends a hell of a lot more money on home issues than the war effort, both must be continued.

What we must do is not an easy task, if your heart for war has gone then that is as it is, I commend you for your efforts and especially the continued efforts on the home front. But believing those that fight only fight for hatred and retribution is a grave mistake, I am constantly evolving my perception of the situation and still believe we must fight for hope and our future, we must fight so our future generations can know peace.

.....

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#16 - 2012-10-16 13:16:37 UTC
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
They educate the slaves about their actual history then give them a choice whether they want to leave or not.
. Pretty sure her highness did that a few monhs ago.


Quote:
The Amarr religion says it wants to uplift all of man, tell that to the women constantly being impregnated then having their children taken off them.
I think pointing out the fact that the half of the Privy Council is female makes your political cry rather hilarious.

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The question I have to ask is, why do you feel the Amarr should get away with what they've done? Because that is what you're advocating, like it or not. To forgive and forget is a beautiful thing, however to treat our remaining kin who want to be freed as 'cutting our loses' is disgusting.


Because Amarr stopped doing it, and fellow maari people still go around, capturing fellow matari to sell as slaves?
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#17 - 2012-10-16 14:43:59 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
They educate the slaves about their actual history then give them a choice whether they want to leave or not.
. Pretty sure her highness did that a few monhs ago.

What? Can you give some sort of source or proof of this? Education and free choice for slaves sounds exquisitely un-Amarrian, but if this indeed happened...

The only thing I am aware of is Jamyl freeing a very old generation of slaves, and abolishing raids into Matari space for obtaining more slaves. Commendable show of goodwill, but it's too little and too late -- and nowhere near the scale of what you're claiming she did.

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Amaki Mai
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-10-17 09:56:15 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Leopold Caine wrote:
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
They educate the slaves about their actual history then give them a choice whether they want to leave or not.
. Pretty sure her highness did that a few monhs ago.

What? Can you give some sort of source or proof of this? Education and free choice for slaves sounds exquisitely un-Amarrian, but if this indeed happened...

The only thing I am aware of is Jamyl freeing a very old generation of slaves, and abolishing raids into Matari space for obtaining more slaves. Commendable show of goodwill, but it's too little and too late -- and nowhere near the scale of what you're claiming she did.


Whether or not you think that freeing the ninth generation and any Slaves involved in academic or spiritual endeavours is worthy or not (and I would think that you'd be of the opinion that it was A Good Thing and something there should be more of) the truth about that which you call 'the abolishing of raids into Matari space' is a lot more comprehensive.

The Empress has renewed her commitment to maintaining the treaties that state that the gathering of Slaves ANYWHERE outside of Empire is space is forbidden. The only legal source of slaves is the progeny of unfreed Slaves within the Empire or those found guilty of crimes for which the punishment is disenfranchisement.

I THINK (although I don't want to put words into his mouth) that Lord Caine is referring to the free choice that Slaves who earn manumission get regarding their future place of abode, whether that be to remain with their former Lord Holder as a free citizen and employee, to go elsewhere within the Empire or to leave the Empire completely.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#19 - 2012-10-17 18:16:56 UTC
Ugleb wrote:
Economic prosperity has no relevance upon the issue of liberty. None at all.


When most people talk about freedom, they don't mean the freedom to starve to death or waste away from a curable disease.

History has shown that slaves can, and do, escape their masters for foreign space. They do revolt. They do have mass uprisings. However, slaves aren't doing this because those who know about the Republic and its open door policy don't see the Republic as offering them a better life.

An economically stable and prosperous Republic would probably do more damage to Amarrian slavery than outright warfare.

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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-10-20 01:42:20 UTC
Our engineers have plotted perhaps the most simple and efficient methods for punching holes through shields, armor and hulls. That being, application of large doses of ballistic mass x kinetic energy, projected in precise trajectories. An obviater of nanotechnology and microcircuitry and all of their refinements. And yet, we still have Minmatar beggars shuffling swill from the back doors of station kitchens. Being degraded for sleeping unwashed in whatever semi-sheltered nook they my find. The struggle is not over, my friends. Not even close.
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