EVE General Discussion

Dont want tournament.

Just a quick heads up. I confirmed this with CCP Falcon as I suspected people had the wrong idea, but the Tournament prize is actually being provided by own3D and not CCP.

pls post what is wrong with post.

OP is correct that u don't need skills, or u make sure to only fight solo wit players with half the SP as urself.

Most do not PvP, instead u pick on noobs solo, be sure u have a gang of ur girlfriends wit u, or pay ccp for 3 or more accounts to give urself logi support.....too scared for a fair fight in a game.....

Random forum alts not having a clue about properly exercised combat,
not realizing that they have no clue about properly exercised combat
and thus judging about it as if they actually had any idea about it.

Anyone who has been in Eve long enough can tell you that they have seen a small fleet of lesser fitted ships overcome the odds to win a fight against a fleet that should have plowed them.

Their success was based upon good decisions of the fleet commander and tight teamwork.

That's what this tourney is focusing on.

CCP says they want to grow EVE pvp into some kind of e-sport, but that will never happen for the following reasons:

1. EVE pvp is a joke amongst competitive pvpers. It is viewed as a game that requires very little skill and has an extremely low skill ceiling. In EVE, you don't beat your opponents because you were a more skilled player, you beat them because you were fortunate enough to choose correct modules and were in the right ship and knew how to operate it, which also isn't something terribly difficult. When compared to the skills of pro players in other competitive e-sport games like starcraft2, you can see a enormous margin of what is required of the player. There is no need for tactical use of terrain, nor a need for high coordination, aiming or high actions per minute, nor micromanage, very little strategy is involved, and the reactionary abilities of your opponents are extremely limited. These pvp mechanics do not attract skilled, competitive gamers, they are the things that make them shy away.


2. Time investment. The amount of skill training required to be on the same level as the competition is not something that is quickly obtained. Many players have had years to get skill level 5 in everything they need. This is not something that is appealing to anyone who might become interested in EVE because of said tournaments. By the time a newer player reached a competitive level there are many factors that could have changed within that time (such as ship rebalancing) which could require more time investment or may not be worth doing at all. In essence,

3. It is not entertaining to watch. There is no display of skill that is nearly as admirable as watching a player like MarineKingprime play starcraft2. These players are so amazing to watch that they generate a following that continues to support their e-sport. If it weren't for amazing players like MKP, I would no longer buy subscriptions to watch him play in the global standard leauge. At a basic level, competitive Starcraft can be understood and is entertaining to watch, even for people who aren't very familar with the game.


Although it is very admirable of CCP for doing this. There has never been a successful e-sport with a knowledge-based game for a reason. These tournaments aren't going to attract any new players to EVE. Since this tournament is done solely to appease current players of EVE. I feel that $10,000 could be better spent hiring more devs to improve the game for everyone instead of the few people who were fortunate enough to already have the trained book skills and know-how required for this tournament.

There isn't really anything less entertaining to watch than a professional starcraft match tbh Each to thier own i guess.