EVE General Discussion

CCP says they want to grow EVE pvp into some kind of e-sport, but that will never happen for the following reasons:

1. EVE pvp is a joke amongst competitive pvpers. It is viewed as a game that requires very little skill and has an extremely low skill ceiling. In EVE, you don't beat your opponents because you were a more skilled player, you beat them because you were fortunate enough to choose correct modules and were in the right ship and knew how to operate it, which also isn't something terribly difficult. When compared to the skills of pro players in other competitive e-sport games like starcraft2, you can see a enormous margin of what is required of the player. There is no need for tactical use of terrain, nor a need for high coordination, aiming or high actions per minute, nor micromanage, very little strategy is involved, and the reactionary abilities of your opponents are extremely limited. And lets not forget the RNG damage (uncontrollable misses and crits) that skilled pvpers despise. These pvp mechanics do not attract skilled, competitive gamers, they are the things that make them shy away.


2. Time investment. The amount of skill training required to be on the same level as the competition is not something that is quickly obtained. Many players have had years to get skill level 5 in everything they need. This is not something that is appealing to anyone who might become interested in EVE because of said tournaments. By the time a newer player reached a competitive level there are many factors that could have changed within that time (such as ship rebalancing) which could require more time investment or may not be worth doing at all.

3. It is not very entertaining to watch unless you are easily entertained. There is no display of skill that is nearly as admirable as watching a player like MarineKingprime play starcraft2. These players are so amazing to watch that they generate a following that continues to support their e-sport. If it weren't for amazing players like MKP, I would no longer buy subscriptions to watch him play in the global standard leauge. At a basic level, competitive Starcraft can be understood and is entertaining to watch, even for people who aren't very familar with the game.


Although it is very admirable of CCP for doing this. There has never been a successful e-sport with a knowledge-based game for a reason. These tournaments aren't going to attract any new players to EVE. Since this tournament is done solely to appease current players of EVE. In e-sports, large cash rewards are offered to attract the most highly skilled players. Additinally, for EVE its pointless to have such a large reward as you would get about the same turnout for a much smaller $ prize because there aren't other entities offering cash rewards for eve pvp and demand is low. I feel that $10,000 could be better spent towards hiring more devs to improve the game for everyone instead of the few people who were fortunate enough to already have the trained book skills and know-how required for this tournament.

Why would you want something after realizing it was a waste of money?

think before posting please.

But if you have an excess of money, and you see something you want, if that amount of money is trivial, then it is not a waste.
Don't think everyone is as poor as you please.

lies, CCP is a company, think before you poast

One dev for two months?

…so basically, you don't understand or appreciate PvP in EVE?

That's nice and all, but why shouldn't CCP cater to those of us who do?

OP, youre an idiot. Not only are SC2 and EVE different in the pvp arena, they are entirely different games in a similar sci-fi genre; which is their only link to each other.

I loved watching the EvE ATs even since before I started playing EvE, and even though Im way too lazy to put in the time needed to actually be a part of it, I feel the EvE AT's are way more entertaining than some matches of SC2 (Of which Ive played exstensively and still find disappointingly inferior to EvE)

Make 'em work crunchtime hours and you got yourself four months for the price of two.

Change your post and name this one "1st"

Didn't read all the rest, sry but this was the only interesting part imho

Methinks you think you are a thinker.