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Getting Rid of the Undesirables (for good this time)

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#661 - 2012-10-16 19:52:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Lin-Young Borovskova
Anslo wrote:
Darius III wrote:
I am already assembling a crew to exploit this new system and use the mechanics to kill even more bears than before.


Needs quite a few logis, and ships to swap into though :) Think it through-we should be able to kill even more people than before. If we do it right-people will be terrified to ever shoot at a suspect. Going to take maybe a hundred players exploiting the suspect flag thing though to instill proper fear and respect.


Ladies and Gentlemen, your elected CSM Representative teaches you to exploit game mechanics for free.



Fixed.

brb

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#662 - 2012-10-16 20:00:40 UTC
your, and teaches.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#663 - 2012-10-16 20:03:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius III
Just to clarify: By exploit-I do not mean the type of exploit that is contra-EULA. I mean exploit in the classic sense, like exploiting resources.

The plan is to have bait suspects with logis to keep him repped while the pilot kills anyone who fires at him. Then have the logi pilots that get shot at swap ships, to shoot more people that shot at the logi as they got flagged. As people tried to shoot suspects, and the suspects shot back, it would come down to who has more people/better tactics.

the end result would be a spider tanking group of outlaws shooting any SOB do gooders that would attempt to kill outlaws. if it was done properly-these bears would know better than to fire at any suspect at any time.

Remember the original plan CCP had in their finite wisdom was to make it so you wouldn't be able to shoot back as a suspect. Thank goodness they shut down the guy who came up with that particular brilliant idea. we can turn this into lulz and kills-just be patient, assemble your crew and make it work. D3

Hmmm

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#664 - 2012-10-16 20:10:36 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative.

So ? People voted for him ... all fair and square. (i didn't vote for him ^_^)

He's representing a part of the community ... he got voted by them ...
... and he stands for whatever **** he's throwing around.

In before whines about highsec not having an *elected* CSM Representative ...
... but oh wonder, oh wonder, what might be the reason for this .............
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#665 - 2012-10-16 20:11:34 UTC
Darius III wrote:

the end result would be a spider tanking group of outlaws shooting any SOB do gooders that would attempt to kill outlaws. if it was done properly-these bears would know better than to fire at any suspect at any time.

Remember the original plan CCP had in their finite wisdom was to make it so you wouldn't be able to shoot back as a suspect. Thank goodness they shut down the guy who came up with that particular brilliant idea. we can turn this into lulz and kills-just be patient, assemble your crew and make it work. D3

Darius, your solution to stop those SOB pubbies is a brilliant plan. Well done Sir.

After a while, those bounty hunters (like Destiny) can get their kills without interruption. The gankers can gank each other without interference from miners. The l33ts can still be l33ts and the wannabes will, like die anyway.

Just imagine, the only people killing each other are the ones who like, kill each other. WOW. What a concept!!

Eve is fixed. Hoorah!!


/me sighs. Getting more and more convinced that CCP should like, fix nullsec. Give these people something to do!

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#666 - 2012-10-16 20:11:58 UTC
Darius III wrote:
Just to clarify: By exploit-I do not mean the type of exploit that is contra-EULA. I mean exploit in the classic sense, like exploiting resources.

The plan is to have bait suspects with logis to keep him repped while the pilot kills anyone who fires at him. Then have the logi pilots that get shot at swap ships, to shoot more people that shot at the logi as they got flagged. As people tried to shoot suspects, and the suspects shot back, it would come down to who has more people/better tactics.

the end result would be a spider tanking group of outlaws shooting any SOB do gooders that would attempt to kill outlaws. if it was done properly-these bears would know better than to fire at any suspect at any time.

Remember the original plan CCP had in their finite wisdom was to make it so you wouldn't be able to shoot back as a suspect. Thank goodness they shut down the guy who came up with that particular brilliant idea. we can turn this into lulz and kills-just be patient, assemble your crew and make it work. D3

Wait, what ?
Are you 100% definitely sure that they are able to actually swap ships,
with all these new flags thrown around ?
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#667 - 2012-10-16 20:13:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lin-Young Borovskova
Lord Zim wrote:
your, and teaches.


Fishing is an old sport requiring patience and the appropriate bait. Distressing activity+nature:awesome Lol

Thx Zim Blink

brb

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#668 - 2012-10-16 20:16:00 UTC
Darius III wrote:
Just to clarify: By exploit-I do not mean the type of exploit that is contra-EULA. I mean exploit in the classic sense, like exploiting resources.

The plan is to have bait suspects with logis to keep him repped while the pilot kills anyone who fires at him. Then have the logi pilots that get shot at swap ships, to shoot more people that shot at the logi as they got flagged. As people tried to shoot suspects, and the suspects shot back, it would come down to who has more people/better tactics.

the end result would be a spider tanking group of outlaws shooting any SOB do gooders that would attempt to kill outlaws. if it was done properly-these bears would know better than to fire at any suspect at any time.

Remember the original plan CCP had in their finite wisdom was to make it so you wouldn't be able to shoot back as a suspect. Thank goodness they shut down the guy who came up with that particular brilliant idea. we can turn this into lulz and kills-just be patient, assemble your crew and make it work. D3



Yeah because of Alpha ! -derp, or is it Falcon?

Whatever...

brb

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#669 - 2012-10-16 20:27:19 UTC
Darius, we should have a go at it. I have...ideas.

Also like half a dozen logistics.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#670 - 2012-10-16 20:29:29 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Darius, we should have a go at it. I have...ideas.

Also like half a dozen logistics.



See? -more pvp, not less.

brb

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#671 - 2012-10-16 20:30:25 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Darius, we should have a go at it. I have...ideas.

Also like half a dozen logistics.



See? -more pvp, not less.

Oh no, hohoho. No.

Nooooo.

It will be nothing like that. You'll be on the forums bitching within one week.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#672 - 2012-10-16 20:34:33 UTC
Seems to me like this is more of the same from CCP, that is, changing stuff that isn't broken in order to make the consumer play the game how THEY think it should be played. Less of a sandbox and more of a 'It's my ball and I make the rules'. It is the same sort of thing that makes them nerf certain things that don't need nerfing and buff things that don't need buffing. It's their sandbox, they can take a dump in it if they want, you just get to play in it.
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#673 - 2012-10-16 20:52:28 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
People who don't PVP in highsec telling highsec PVPers how new mechanics will affect highsec PVP.

Sure is valuable discourse there.


^ this ^
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#674 - 2012-10-16 21:09:30 UTC
Korinne wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
People who don't PVP in highsec telling highsec PVPers how new mechanics will affect highsec PVP.

Sure is valuable discourse there.


^ this ^

Last time i've heard, you were nowhere near highsec either, you armchair-soldier ...
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#675 - 2012-10-16 21:13:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Korinne wrote:
Seems to me like this is more of the same from CCP, that is, changing stuff that isn't broken in order to make the consumer play the game how THEY think it should be played. Less of a sandbox and more of a 'It's my ball and I make the rules'. It is the same sort of thing that makes them nerf certain things that don't need nerfing and buff things that don't need buffing. It's their sandbox, they can take a dump in it if they want, you just get to play in it.

lol...what? Bounties aren't broken? How is CCP forcing anybody to play how they want with this? Your entire statement makes no sense at all. Regardless of this fact, a sandbox is still in a box and therefor the box has walls. You can play in the sand all you want so long as said sand stays with in those walls.

You could call life a sandbox but I still can't ******* fly. Damn that God for not letting me play in my sandbox the way I want!

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821

Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#676 - 2012-10-16 21:16:46 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative.

So ? People voted for him ... all fair and square. (i didn't vote for him ^_^)

He's representing a part of the community ... he got voted by them ...
... and he stands for whatever **** he's throwing around.

In before whines about highsec not having an *elected* CSM Representative ...
... but oh wonder, oh wonder, what might be the reason for this .............

Actually every member of the CSM is supposed to represent the entire player community, not a select few.
Megos Adriano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#677 - 2012-10-16 21:21:35 UTC
ISD Suvetar wrote:
Not at all, I'm saying that if it only takes one shot to get a kill right against me, I can make sure I get plenty of fights in hubs.


But they don't want plenty of "fights" in hubs, and they for sure don't want people to be able to shoot first. What these people want is a safe, PvPCAREBEAR environment where they can gank nubs with total security.

And boom goes the dynamite.

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#678 - 2012-10-16 21:24:32 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative.

So ? People voted for him ... all fair and square. (i didn't vote for him ^_^)

He's representing a part of the community ... he got voted by them ...
... and he stands for whatever **** he's throwing around.

In before whines about highsec not having an *elected* CSM Representative ...
... but oh wonder, oh wonder, what might be the reason for this .............

Actually every member of the CSM is supposed to represent the entire player community, not a select few.

Yeah...thats the way it SHOULD be. Unfortunately they see it another way. The represent their "constituents", those that voted for them. Not that they actually know who those people are.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#679 - 2012-10-16 21:25:50 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Darius, we should have a go at it. I have...ideas.

Also like half a dozen logistics.

See? -more pvp, not less.

Oh no, hohoho. No.

Nooooo.

It will be nothing like that. You'll be on the forums bitching within one week.

Do your best to get that time before 5 days, please.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#680 - 2012-10-16 21:30:40 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative.

So ? People voted for him ... all fair and square. (i didn't vote for him ^_^)

He's representing a part of the community ... he got voted by them ...
... and he stands for whatever **** he's throwing around.

In before whines about highsec not having an *elected* CSM Representative ...
... but oh wonder, oh wonder, what might be the reason for this .............

Actually every member of the CSM is supposed to represent the entire player community, not a select few.

Why would people seek out other people to vote for them,
if they can only appeal to a specific amount of people,
but never to the whole population ?

I mean ... of course, hopefully all CSM members try to do what's best for the GAME,
but if they didn't care for those who voted for them ... they wouldn't get voted again.