Missions & Complexes

I am very curious about this as well, as there are few ways to test it other than running out there through low sec. Anyone have experience?

Yes, yes re anomalies / plexes ... although I'll leave the details to someone more expert than me in that area.

Ratting is viable in any nullsec area, although some areas considered better than others (e.g. IMO Spire and other dronelands suck!). In NPC null you have the added feature of most other ppl in the system probably are also trying to kill you. At least in deep sov null the vast majority of locals are blue so you can rat relatively safely.

Solo and small group PvP, in pretty well all its forms, occurs in NPC null. I've been in venal (guristas), curse (angels), and pure blind (sisters) a fair bit over the last few weeks and a very wide range of people and groups have tried to kill me.

Nullsec stations are just like hisec stations, except that the ppl waiting at the undock are much more likely to try to kill you. Once you've built an instawarp undock bookmark or two you're not at a hugely increased risk.
You mention being locked out of stations .... it's outposts that do that, not NPC stations. NPC stations in nullsec act in the same way as NPC stations in hisec and lowsec. The services in NPC stations in nullsec work in the same way as their hisec equivalents ... you do need standings to access agents, and get discounts on refining etc.

Yes, PvP can be enjoyable. Some people enjoy it a lot, others a little, and still others not at all. Many people enjoy PvP more when they're winning than when they're losing.
Small gang, small ship PvP can also be a lot of fun ... fast and mobile and being very careful with target choice.

I'm sure it is possible to make a living in NPC nullsec, and to fund some PvP losses that way, but I don't think it's likely to be that efficient. I regularly run missions (epic arcs and 'normal' agent missions) in nullsec, but it's more for the entertainment than the isk. I've setup with a few ships and a jump-clone at each location so I can just jump in, spend a day or two doing whatever, and then jump out again.

Re "local (pirate) corp". It's nullsec you're talking about. There's not really any such thing as a pirate in nullsec ... because anyone can kill you without CONCORD caring even a little. There are player corps in all NPC nullsec regions, and many of those corps specialise in PvP and will happily turn your ship into space dust as often as you let them ... but that doesn't make them pirates. That's just the nature of nullsec.
Of course there are pirate NPC corps in nullsec, but they behave in much the same way as non-pirate NPC corps ... you can belong to any other corp and access their stations and services. Your standings with that NPC-pirate corp / alliance will modify the availability of agents and the costs of services etc, just like in hisec NPC stations.



Why not?

Nullsec mission running has the added dimension of all the locals also trying to kill you. It can keep the excitement levels running high and is way more 'interesting' than running hisec lvl4s.




LOL, don't even offer this up.

Good luck. I suggest getting a ship or two into your region of choice, giving it a try (expecting to lose everything ... several times) and use jump clones to take a break or make some serious isk when you need.

FTFY

As far as isk goes, Ratting in NPC 0.0 is okay, but missions will do you better, assuming there is an okay LP store. By okay I mean basically not the Intaki Syndicate LP store, but Nation, Gurista's, etc are all decent choices. So I would reconsider doing missions. However, if you must not run missions then yeah, chaining rats in NPC null still makes a pretty good income and you don't need all your LP skills to V (well now there is basically only one important one anyway). I would definitely chain rather than go from system to system, the only good reason to do that is to get sec status.

Also as far as risk versus reward, I find FW to pay out a fair bit more than True Power missions, I can get 14k lp from a True Power level 4, or I can get 32Klp from a FW level 4 where I only have to kill one ship, and I can do it in a bomber and a executioner. Not only that, but it is only 10klp to buy a slicer, and i can go to the highsec station to spend my LP, so I never even have to worry about moving my loot. However with a capital ship and some alts, I suppose it won't be too hard to move stuff at least from a closer region, such as great wildlands, curse, syndicate, etc.

Yes, there are anomalies and Sanctums....but there are in high sec too even. Also, remember recently they onboard scanner got faster and more range, so if you want to use them, be careful.

As far as small gang PVP goes, well sometimes I seen that in Stain, Cruse seems to have it more, syndicate seems to have small gangs and blobs pretty regularly to me, more camps too. I can't say much about great wildlands, or outer ring since I haven't really been there much. If you are in NPC delve I have seen a great many blobs, but every region will be different and what is going on at the current time in nearby sov regions also makes a great deal of difference.

Don't get lured by yerr pirates. The bad neighborhood is okay to have some fun in, not a good idea to live in. Like I said before, it's not worth the effort of trying to make isk in post unscannable nerf. The more reliable isk you can make, the less time you have to grind to support your pvp fix. Some people are just masochist, and prefer getting ganked in pve fits. Good for them.

Haven't checked the forums in a while, so sorry if I'm reviving a "dead" thread or anything, not that accustomed to forum ettiquete.. ;) Like I mentioned before, casual player..

Thanks for all the replies, some really helpfull posts in there, and not alot of the often "L2P" comments that seem so common on the eve forums..

Main reason I'm not gonna run missions there is because like many of you have pointed out, the risk versus reward scale might be better in highsec running 4's.. get to use ships that are more fun to fly as well without risking heartattacks or seizures..
I've also completely botched my pirate standings during my days as a fresh recruit and I'm not on good terms with the sisters since an event that involved a large cargo of minny slaves, illegal boosters and exotic dancers..
If I want to run missions or need serious isk to support my pvp'ing, I'll just JC back to highsec..
My NPC 0.0 home will function mostly for pvp, PI, startoff point for WH trips and exploration, using "downtime" to grind a little cash..

I do understand exploration and small/solo pvp might be interesting, so that's a good thing..
Picked a region I want to live in and have most things setup so I can move in soon.. Guess I'll find out who the locals are in due time, but are there any major alliances/groups that lay claim to NPC nullsec regions that you know of? Don't want to fly right into an angry bee hive..



1. Thanks, hope it's going to be a blast!
2. Why do the great wildlands suck? Was actually looking at it the other day, and thought it would suit solo and smallgang pvp cause of the lack of stations.. Encourage a nomadic playstyle? Or has it been filled to the brim with POS's?
3. I know nano-fits revolve around making your ship extremely agile, but that's pretty much it.. someone got some "general idea" examples?
4. So make sure that I don't' pass the docking range border simply by undocking right? Is it true that the first time you stop your ship you retain your 30 sec invuln?
5. Guess I'll get to know the locals one way or the other..
6. Yeah, got one of those fortunately, though I really think there should be a way to at the very least check what or how much is on grid at the other side of the gate without one. If not, flying between systems basically equals russian roulete, you're gonna get screwed at some point. Doesn't really help investing in and getting attached to ships when it's more or less a mathematical fact you're going to lose it at some point, without anything you can reliably do about it.. Might even have affects on small and solo pvp I reckon unless you have acces to intell channels..

Also, another question that came to mind. Like I mentioned before, I'm outlawed in certain parts of space cause of standings.. Will angry empire navies come after me in lowsec? Kinda good to know when moving cap ships around..

And, if traveling from gate A to gate B I would get sucked into a drag bubble at gate B, will making a BM 200+KM (and further away) off gate B and warping there prevent that? Or do I really have to bounce of a moon or planet from a completely different direction?

Thanks again for the helpfull replies!