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[Proposal] Revive Eve

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Saithe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-10 18:57:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Saithe
Eve is dying. Lowsec is drying up, 0.0 is dead (unless you're part of the CFC or HBC blobbing each other) and in 2 months you can make 50bil, flying in circles doing nothing productive.

And we are pissed.

Here are several propositions, with ways to execute them:

1) Faction Farming
Currently, everyone and their mother/brother/daughter/sister/cousin/aunt is leaving whatever it is they are doing to get in on the isk farming train that is faction warfare. You take a frigate, fit a warp core stab, and orbit some plex's until they are capped. Then one day you take control of the system and cash out. There is no incentive for the opposing faction to defend their space (because they are doing the EXACT SAME THING in their own space)

What needs to be done?
Reduce LP gain from capping the plex's by 80%, while increasing LP gain from killing attackers by 250%, scaling with rank vs rank. If a Rank 10 kills a Rank 1 (please excuse me, I don't know the level ratings or crap), you'd gain say 25% LP. But if a Rank 1 kills a Rank 10, 250%. This is SOLELY on defense against other players. This will reduce the LP -> Isk farming that is currently happening, while bringing life back in to the spirit of Factional Warfare.

2) NPC Nullsec vs Sov Sec
There is absolutely no reason to go to npc nullsec other than to engage in some random fights and dock up when you get outnumbered. Should sov space have the 'best' systems? Sure, but to an extent. There needs to be an incentive to move to NPC nullsec. For example, if you are in Syndicate, there should be more Serpentis related events. Weather it be more Serpentis plex's, better rats (I mean, it IS the Serpentis' Area of Operations, you know they have fleets there) as well as exclusive Gallente related moon goo. Same goes for the other NPC nullsec regions. You could also decrease the true sec of systems the further from NPC space they are, reducing the number of botters out in the ass-end of nowhere.

3) Promote Piracy
What if there were some NPC factions that encouraged piracy? Similar to faction wafare, but more on a non role play level. For example, once you have pirated 100 targets, you could gain access to smuggler gates, creating shortcuts to other areas of low/null sec. Suddenly you could be pirating in Decon, and gain access to jump from decon to reblier. I know that is a bit of an exaggeration, but you get the idea.
Saithe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-10-10 19:01:02 UTC
I know there are plans for FW changes in the winter expansion, but this is something that REALLY needs to be addressed RIGHT NOW, as it is an exploit.
Ame Sonoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-10-10 19:29:01 UTC
I still can't believe FW LP farming hasn't been nerfed, It was known early on that it was broken and it hasn't been touched, even reducing the tier bonus to 20% instead of 50% would've at least helped.
I actually ignored it for 2 months expecting it to get hotfixed as soon as I started trying to take advantage. It's 1 month after I started LP farming and I have sold 10bil worth of items from FW and still have another 70bil worth to go.

CCP letting this go to winter is just massively incompetent.
Saithe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-10-10 20:42:28 UTC
What really irritates me is that they have deemed the LP Method an explot, told how it's an exploit, then proceeded to announce that NOTHING would be done until the winter expansion.
Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
#5 - 2012-10-10 22:04:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tweety Bird
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Saithe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-10-11 13:13:39 UTC
Bump for more discussion
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#7 - 2012-10-11 17:12:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Proclus Diadochu
While, I agree that changes need to be made, and this is coming from a wormhole CEO, and FW director (My alt is Sam Sabre), I do believe that EVE is far from dead. There are multiple wars going on in nullsec, but I do agree that it will be nice when a Goon/Test civil war occurs to break up the blocs a bit, and rest assured, like every bloc in the past, it is bound to happen eventually.

I would suggest a bit of patience with CCP on the changes this winter, as I sincerely believe it is going to spice up gameplay. The state of FW is still alive as far as PvP, but the isk faucet that exists is overboard. People will abuse it for another month or so and then it will be adjusted and the gameplay will change.

I can assure you that "Eve is dying" threads have existed as far back as I can remember and EVE is still here, so I wouldn't stress it...

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Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
#8 - 2012-10-12 01:31:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tweety Bird
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Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#9 - 2012-10-12 04:26:49 UTC
Tweety Bird wrote:
EVE is REAL!


I was there!

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#10 - 2012-10-15 23:24:39 UTC
CCP successfully "buffed' FW out of existence (as a pvp thing) this past summer. It's shame they are waiting till december to do something about it.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]

Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#11 - 2012-10-16 05:08:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
King Rothgar wrote:
CCP successfully "buffed' FW out of existence (as a pvp thing) this past summer. It's shame they are waiting till december to do something about it.


A significant tweak will be occurring on the 16th (Today) of this month.
http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp

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Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-10-16 13:26:45 UTC
Saithe wrote:
Bump for more discussion
If you have to "bump for more discussion", then the thread subject isn't really worth discussing. EvE is not dying like so many morons cry.

It's just gotten stale and boring in my opinion.

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33