Wormholes

Have to agree with Durzel on this one, I've lived with a C4 as a static since wormhole were introduced, I've scanned literally thousands of C4s I have never seen a highsec to C4 connection making it along with the fabled > 1.3b kg jumpable WH the only WHs I've never seen in game.

Thread being what it is, I'd suggest it's mostly if not entirely a fabrication.

5/10, I bit

I thought all holes had a random chance of having holes leading to high sec locations (obviously not the static tho) or does that just apply to C1-3 holes ?

If your going nomad then you should/must have an orca with you which you can then use to collapse the chain and try your luck with the next one.
If you don't have an orca then you derserve to be trapped waiting for the static to collapse.

People picked up quickly on your false claim of entering C4 from high sec but this gem went unnoticed...
You're stuck in a wormhole chain with no way to get to k-space, all the while having K162's from high sec? Umm okay....

Assuming for a second that you're not trolling, you do realize that you can enter K162's? There are no such things as dead ends in wormholes, sure you might have to roll a connection or wait until you find a better one, but it's never a permanent situation that'd leave you stuck there.

It's true guys. I saw him when he finally found a wh that went 50km off the Jita 4-4 undock. True story

You know very well that dead end chains in wh space are possible.

You are right. I was reffering to closed loops as dead ends. My mistake.

The last time I was in a loop like that, the static wh of my home static was connected back to my home. It was a very short loop: Home -> C5 -> Home. however that wh had an incoming wh from NS. The old rule that a 5-6 wh long chain must have at least one k-space connect was holding true.

However, had the NS incoming wh collapsed, if I had used it to bring capitals for example, would a new connection to k-space had appear shortly after? Next time I am in a loop like that I will try.

But I am guessing that if CCP makes sure WH chains always have a connection to k-space it only enforces it when a new static or regional wh is created. If the only k-space connection in a chain dies, you only get a new connection to k-space when one of the static in the chain dies as well or when a regional or k-space incoming wh appear randomly.

You're right the last wormhole I found was it's static so I entered through a K-162

As I mentioned I saw other probers within the chain (they must have probed out their static and fell into my deadend chain), not sure if they just gave up or not.

It's nice to have confirmation from above posters that it is in fact "working as intended", I've read all the books, guides and countless threads but never saw anything discussed like this... glad I didn't petition it :P

for a bit I thought I was losing my mind, rushing up and down the chain probing and re-probing hoping none of YOUs found my fleet

I survived the torturous wormhole debacle, no isk, no kills, 1 full game day loss... back to Jita undock for me.

This. It is impossible to get in a closed chain without static'ing into another wormhole in your chain.

If you do, it's bad luck; wait it out and scan it again the next day.


C4, C5, and C6 always (?) have statics to other wormholes. C3 always have a connection to k-space, C1s and C2s always have a k-space (I THINK) and sometimes another wormhole (I.e. C2-> low-sec/C2).

Of these, all but C4 can have random K-space connections (wandering wormholes).

The worst I've had was c4-c4-c4-c4-c5-c5-c5-c6-c5-c5-low-sec random.

Just keep scanning; the more C5s you have the more likely you are to find a random wormhole or a non-static connection. C4s can be good sometimes because of the C2 wormholes that are C4/HS.

Svodola Darkfury.