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Allegations of breaking the NDA

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Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#1 - 2011-10-18 11:53:28 UTC
I have been accused of breaking the Non Disclosure Agreement that I signed when I was elected CSM. I will be addressing that accusation in this thread and hopefully shed some light on what really happened.

At no time did I ever leak anything to anyone. I have never shared NDA protected Skype logs, nor any information therein nor have I shared anything from the CSM official forums. In fact I do not answer many questions from corp members, friends or any media unless I am 110% certain that my answer is NDA safe.

The 'evidence' that people use claiming I broke the NDA shows my innocence. The alleged leak shows the name"mittani" in chatlogs. Notice the lowercase 'm'? If you have ever had a discussion with me in any chat-take note that I always capitalize peoples names, locations etc.

I understand that this does not "prove" that I did not leak anything, however it is stronger evidence than that which has been used to indict me.

I ask you to apply the same standard of evidence to my defense as used in my prosecution.

What really happened? I honestly do not know, but I have taken every step I can to disprove the allegations. I think that either:

A: There never was a leak and the whole thing was manufactured, or

B: I was set up to be made to look guilty by another member of the CSM. (Vile Rat is a lazy typist who doesn't bother to capitalize peoples names.....)

Why would someone do this, you may ask? Well it is public knowledge that I am Goons public enemy #1 ever since I trolled them regarding "Freeport Delve".
http://www.evenews24.com/2011/09/23/meta-gaming-darius-iii-brix-deceives-goonswarm-leadership-into-buying-the-fall-of-delve-amidst-propaganda-war/

After which they dedicate two paragraphs to me in one of their internal releases:
http://www.evenews24.com/2011/09/28/endie-goonswarm-federation-alliance-update-september-28th/

Now they have wardecced my Alliance and sent down fleets numbering 500+ pilots to take our space. Sounds like 'They Mad Bro'Cool
If I had leaked anything I would be a man and step up and admit my error. I knew I had pissed GS off but never expected them to stoop to such lowly tactics.

GM Note: Please do not lock this thread as it is relevant and there are @100 posts in various Eve-O forums claiming I breached the NDA. As long as those posts are allowed to stand-in the interests of fair play-my rebuttal also should stand.

To the players of Eve: I apologize for being enough of a douche that people would actually believe that I would do something like this and thus, making someone think that they could frame me in such a manner. D3

Hmmm

Seyveaux Cheval
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2011-10-18 11:58:46 UTC
Not that I particularly care, but linking the most reputable and non-politcally affiliated news site doesn't help your case too much.
Jigoku Tomi
Time Sync
#3 - 2011-10-18 12:01:10 UTC
Your case is a lower case "m"?

Should have kept silent methinks, chat logs are never evidence baby.
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#4 - 2011-10-18 12:01:48 UTC
Seyveaux Cheval wrote:
Not that I particularly care, but linking the most reputable and non-politcally affiliated news site doesn't help your case too much.

Well, it links a GoonSwarm internal memo, as such it does lack a certain amount of credibility....Lol

Aslo, as a gesture of goodwill, I have doubled the amount of likes you have. D3

Hmmm

Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#5 - 2011-10-18 12:03:23 UTC
OP,

Thanks for addressing this head on. Also note, as long as people assume goons are going to abide by some laws of civilization, they will continue to scam everyone. I understand CCP didn't have the man power to police eve early on, but I can't imagine the level of debauchery known to goons was ever intended. I believe that listening to a goon about tying your shoes would make you dumber, so anything more complicated falls into this category as well. Vomit given form, aka goons are a waste of time.

AG
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Kehro Urgus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-10-18 12:03:46 UTC
I can get you into goons just send 500m isk Blink

Yeeee! 

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-10-18 12:06:18 UTC

Wow, so much bla.

You're an *******, like the rest of them.
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#8 - 2011-10-18 12:06:57 UTC
Jigoku Tomi wrote:
Your case is a lower case "m"?

Should have kept silent methinks, chat logs are never evidence baby.



I am aware of the weakness of "The lowercase m defense", however the low evidentiary standard of bogus chatlogs has been surpassed by check-able facts. Namely that I always capitalize proper nouns.

Weak? Yes. Stronger than "timezone"? Yes

Hmmm

non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#9 - 2011-10-18 12:10:01 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
If there really was a breach of NDA, I would have thought that CCP should have reacted by now. Since you still seem to have the white CSM tab on your name, I suggest that people should take notice of that, rather than believing anything else. I might be wrong, because I don't know how long these things take to get resolved. Shouldn't this be mostly handled by CCP offically and not like this on these forums. Are you looking for a reply, by someone at CCP?
Ratnose Banker
Pink Sockers
#10 - 2011-10-18 12:11:06 UTC
It must be true because mittani said so!!!

*swallows another pint of mitten's warm *****
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#11 - 2011-10-18 12:12:24 UTC
In the lead up to Iraq, the US based part of their case on the British. The British said they got the intel on the condition they'd keep the source secret. I'll always believe the US gave it to them. Goons smearing someone? Absolutely, they don't serve eve, they serve goons.
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#12 - 2011-10-18 12:14:21 UTC
Why the hell would you wish to wash dirty CSM clothes in public? I get that you being acused of breaching the NDA is something that should be discussed by you in public since those same allegations were already made public by other parties. But accusing someone of the CSM of setting you up is unprofessional at best. I really think you should re-consider and talk about that particular theory in private with your other council colleagues.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#13 - 2011-10-18 12:17:13 UTC
/Me Supports Darius

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#14 - 2011-10-18 12:17:29 UTC
non judgement wrote:
If there really was a breach of NDA, I would have thought that CCP should have reacted by now. Since you still seem to have the white CSM tab on your name, I suggest that people should take notice of that, rather than believing anything else. I might be wrong, because I don't know how long these things take to get resolved. Also, shouldn't this be mostly handled by CCP offically and not like this on these forums. Or are you looking for a reply, by someone at CCP, backing up your claims?



No, I do not expect a CCP response. I was reading the post about removing Mittani from CSM (lol) and saw quite a few references to this allegation. Those were not removed so I felt the time was overdue for me to personally and publicly refute the charges and reassure my constituents that I take my office seriously.

Hmmm

mydingaling
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-10-18 12:17:59 UTC
So you are saying that vile rat or the mittani took the time to make fake chat logs. Because straight up anyone that has any dealings with them in any depth either good or bad knows that is simply not their style. Its far beneath them, very amateur and not something they would pull.
Reading that as your defence pretty much tells me that yes they are your logs. I could not care less tbh but just had to point at you and say hahaha you are lying.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-10-18 12:19:45 UTC
Darius III wrote:
Now they have wardecced my Alliance and sent down fleets numbering 500+ pilots to take our space. Sounds like 'They Mad Bro'Cool

Confirming that is the entire reason for our current Delve operations.
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#17 - 2011-10-18 12:20:13 UTC
no one cares what the alternates do, trust me.

Big smile

www.shipsofeve.com

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#18 - 2011-10-18 12:24:10 UTC
Who would have thought... corrupt politicians. What is this world coming to? Blink Note: This comment wasn't directed @ anyone in particular, was made on the basis of the whole situation. Lol
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#19 - 2011-10-18 12:25:37 UTC
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:
no one cares what the alternates do, trust me.

Big smile


I was kind of wondering if I am an alt? Since I was a delegate at the Monoclegate summit, am I no longer an alt?

PS: I still hav ethe ships you gave me in Jita when you quit-hit me up if you need them backRoll D3

Hmmm

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#20 - 2011-10-18 12:26:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Thorn Galen
@Darius III

Quite frankly, I see a lot of rationalising on your behalf for an event which took place a few weeks ago. I have to ask myself why you did not come out fighting so strongly then, not now ? The answer is that you slipped-up and are now attempting damage control.

Your issues with other CSM members is nothing short of personal - very personal.

The honourable thing for you to do will be to resign your CSM post as a matter of maintaining some dignity. Your rationale and links to chatlogs etc is flawed to the extent that I feel embarrased on your behalf, no really, I do. Simply put - you should never have leaked the information, you created your own dilemma. You have two alternatives now as far as I can see, one is to stay put and take the flak and hope to survive it, the other is for you to step down from the CSM.

You are wagging the dog and it's just making your story that much less believable.
I was brought up to believe that where there's smoke, there's fire. That precept has never failed me.

I neither dislike or like you, but as you are a CSM, you have failed in your duties towards me as a player in particular and to the rest of the Eve community as a whole. Your trust is damaged and will not be easily regained by the majority of clear-thinking players. There is simply too much evidence against you - and not coming from the other CSM members either.

You are probably a decent enough player and person, but are undeserving of a position on the CSM. Yes, you were voted in democratically, but you broke the agreements, you broke the trust.

Sure, I will be hated and spammed and flamed for this, but that's fine by me. Anyone not being able to handle flaming on forums shouldn't bother posting.

Fly safe.

Yours Sincerely,
Thorn Galen.
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