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That is what CCP is trying to address with this retribution. As a ganker in high sec you have no risk now. You operate with a known cost your ship. But you do not lose that ship until you pull the trigger on a target. And you do not do that until you know you have a great profit which includes the loss of your ship. So as you already said high sec has no risk for you, yet.

While CCP may not get this right on the first try, they seldom do, it will eventually work itself out as CCP patches it a number of times. Sort of like the UI changes. If at first you do not succeed try try again. And that they do quite well. That is why I am not that worried about the problems with this retribution. It is a move in the right direction which will get ironed out over time.

oh ffs.

I said YOU as in the collective - nullsec zealots who **** on everything and everyone : aka Goons - let's shitpost and crash this gig because we don't want this guy to have an opinion that is not in line with ours. THAT kind of YOU.

Firstly, you're an fn Goon - your view is tainted and suspect straight up.

In addition, you've shitpoasted all over me before and thus my view of anything you have to say is rather err.... tainted. I have dared to challenge the mighty ZIM - you can't handle it. Deal with it.

That's the price you get to pay when you believe, beyond doubt, that you're without fault. If you want to debate, discuss and move forward then fine. Otherwise, post on your highsec char so my dim view of your obvious bias might not be so, shall we say, set.

You're a bloody goon, so of co-

Oh wait.

God this thread is ridiculous.

I have been playing this game for a very long time. I have been in Null Sec fighting wars, I have been in WH space ratting and killing, I have been in Low Sec preying on the little guys and I have also been in High Sec missioning, trading and pissing on roids. About the only thing I haven't done is Faction Warfare. Through all that there is one thing I have learned...

You aren't going to balance things for one group without stepping on the toes of another. CCP is not going to be able to make everybody in the game happy. Frankly, it is their game and their decision to make. Bottom line...if you don't like a change...then don't let it effect you. Adapt or move on to something else. I have been in EVE through thick and thin...I always adapted or did something else for a while. I was pissed with the Haven/Sanctum changes in Null Sec so I moved to WH space...now I am back in Null Sec 9 months later.

These changes aren't going to be the end of EVE. People will adapt and still find ways to effectively kill each other in High Sec. Yes...these changes make it easier for the carebears in High Sec. If the changes ultimately hurt the game then CCP will adjust them to compensate. They always have.

To lazy to read the 33 pages to see if this got put to rest, but I am dead set against kill rights being both front loaded, and generating a suspect flag.

It should be the way it is now, were having an active kill right on someone toggles a LE. Would make bounty hunters actually get to be bounty hunters, not some justice watchtower calling out bad guys for the locals to dog pile.

I already live in low-sec. Guns don't bother me, I'm looking forward to having to deal with them less though of course.

I will easily admit that the two changes I'm against will have little effect on me, but that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on the matter. Take it as you will, it's just the way I see it. Doesn't mean it's right, but neither does it mean it's wrong.

Yeah...those Something Awful guys seem really good at being assholes and then suddenly doing something humane and awesome.

I'm more concerned about the retention of existing subscribers whose gameplay is likely to be negatively impacted. Most specifically the people who live in highsec most of the time but roam lowsec as their thing they do for PVP. Those guys are put in the worst possible position. I mean, I have 884 kills, almost all of them in highsec yet I've never done anything that resulted in a character having kill rights on me so it's not my problem, but it sure will be a problem for those guys.

The idea of actually giving a crap about how other people's gameplay may be negatively impacted by a change in mechanics might be an alien concept to the carebears though, I don't really expect them to understand.

Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative.