EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hey all

Just been in game for 3 days and well so far so good. The players who ive spoken to so far in game have been very welcoming and very helpful. I wont mention one player who helped me yesterday with scanning !!! haha but between her help and the youtube video ive got the hang of it now.

Ive always wanted to play eve for many years but the depth and scope of eve combined with the technicalities of game mechanics always put me off picking up the game before. However now Ive been playing MMOS for a while now, the most recent one being star trek online, I felt the time was right to move up to a game where the content is there. When i started playing STO the game kept me coming back for more, doing the next mission, ranking up to the next level etc however I soon found myself at end game with nothing to do. Also, the direction that game is taking and the lack of content and depth of game, has left me wandering around the last few months.

So i thought right time to get to grips with eve. Its taken me 3 days and im sure im not through half the basics yet however thats not a bad thing because i can see this game is going to offer me the time sink/content/challenge I need. When I found out how to open up the whole map all i can say is wow. Eve is such a huge universe. Compared to STO universe I feel eves universe definately makes it feel like space.

It kinda rmeinds me of the old freelancer game. My top games are Arma 2, command and conquer, and up until recently Star Trek Online. In a way eve feels like a space mil sim/tactical game. Already I can see me playing this for a while yet.

Just a few quesitons I do have to help me feel less lost I guest.

1) Im currently running tutorial missions through the agents and I gather as I go to various stations more and more agents will open up offering more misisons ? what do you do once all misisons are completed ? do i find a job ? what do i do for a job ? i guess everyone mines ? i guess my quesiton is what is the career advancement/ranking system in eve ?

2) Will eve ever open up to 3rd person ground combat ? i saw a movie somewhere and they had players on a surface in 3rd person view battling against tanks ? i think it would be awesome as my other fave MMO was planetside and if eve had the ground combat factor it would open up a whole new gameplay

3) Going back to ranking/levelling how do i progress to new/bigger ships ? im currently flying a frigate but ultimately id like to be in a frontline support/combat role ? whats the best route of progression ?

4) What are the pvp rules in eve ? i was doing a scanning tutorial and didnt realise id spent ages sat near to an enemy contact who was in red on the contacts list (i dont think it was an npc as the contact had a player name) is there a safe zone where you cant be fired on ?

5) how do clones work ? i want to make sure i have a clone just as a backup ! ive been podded twice doing the tutorial missions and I would hate to be one of these people who get ganked and lose everything. What do i need to do so I know i can respawn safely knowing ive not lost anything ?

Sorry for all the questions but any help or advice you can give a new player is welcome !

a job in eve is what you make out of it, after tutorial missions there is lvl 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 missions
people do missions for a few things in eve
+cash
+Loyalty points
+ standings ( rep in other games)

cash is... cash
loyalty points are like special currency to get special stuff, like faction items
higher rep gives a bunch of perks that are too numerous to mention... basically u want everyone to like you as much as they can ( note that this is impossible)

too get a bigger ship look at one, say a cruiser
you need racial frigate 4, and racial cruiser 1 just to step into that ship
but wait, to fit that ship right u will need medium turrets, a shield or armor repper, hardeners to improve resist and much more... dont rush it,
Its better to fly a smaller ship well then a bigger ship with a fail fit

a player can technically kill u any time u undock, the trick is, if the security is above 0.4 ( .5 or higher) they will be killed by the police. so they lose thier ship, do not make yourself worth killing.
there are exceptions, if you are at war, or you steal from a wreck.

clones are simple, look at your total SP, then your clone SP, you want to have your clone to have more SP then your total at all times... that way if you die you don't lose SP... when u die u must update your clone.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Guides

The Evelopedia has lot's of information available.

The various sub forums also have different channels containing threads that are 'Sticky'. The 'Sticky' threads are located at the top of each sub forum channel and contain links to information pertaining to that specific channel.

Good luck and welcome to Eve.


DMC

First off i would like to say welcome to Eve

Its very good that you are realistic on how deep Eve is and how long it takes to learn "everything". There are so many aspects of the game that you will most likely never be able to say that you know everything about everything Dont be afraid to ask people questions,but never take it for granted that people are giving you the correct answear. Like in all games Eve has people who find enjoyment in tricking new players or giving them bad advice. And ofc you have to consider the fact that everyone has different ways of doing things.

Ok now for your questions.

1) When you do a mission you will get standing. You will get faction standing,standing with the npc corp your working for and you will also loose a bit of standing with the factions who are against you. In your case you will mainly loose standings with Gallente. But that is something you really dont have to worry about for a while since it requieres some hard core mission running before you get to low. As your standing increase you will be able to use more and more agents,and eventually agents that are a higher level. To find an agent do as someone else here said, Click on the corp logo next to the agents name and cilck on the agents tab. This will provide a full list over the corps agents,their locations and what standings you need to use them.
You can choose your self what faction and corp you want to work for,and even what kind of missions you prefer to do.

1b. Not everyone mines. Actually some Eve players wouldent mine even if you tried to force them to do so. I wont lie,if your solo mining can be really really boring in the long run. It is nice if your just looking for something to do while your not able to pay attention at all times. (especially when you get into a larger mining ship like a barge or exhumer).

So more or less this is a question that is impossible to answear. There is no ranking system in Eve. You just get thrown out there to do whatever you want to do. Which is one of the things that is rough on new players since they still dont know what they CAN do. If you enjoy the mining missions i would either train for a mining ship and a decent hauler,if you like the kill missions keep going and make your self able to use lvl 4 agents (but for the love of god dont try to do them before you have a ship that can handle it,and skills that makes you able to fly that ship decently). The level 4 agents brings you a decent income no matter what so this is something you will most likely want to do anyway.

You can also jump straigh out there and give pvp a try. But please be aware over the fact that if you loose your ship,you need to buy a new one,and if you loose your pod you have to buy a new clone.

2) http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Dust_514

3) Most young players are very impatient when it comes to getting into larger ships. Remember that in Eve size really does not matter Take your time,get the support skills before you even get the skills to fly a ship. If you have the ship sitting in your hangar and the skill to actually fly it, the temptation to try it will get the best of you and worst case you end up loosing it because you did not have the skills to actually fly it. Sorry i have no better way to word it... One of the bad things with not being a native english speaker
But again,take your time,get the support skills,ask people for advice on how to fit it to get the general idea then find a fit that you feel comfterbale with.

4) If you undock there is always the chanse that someone will kill you. But in general your safe as long as you stay in 0.5 and up. This is not the case if your in a war (since your currently in an NPC corp this is not something you have to worry about),or if you steal someones can/wreck.
If someone tried to blow you up in empire space they will get blown up by concord (the white npc's you see floating around in empire) and they will loose securety status. If they sec status gets to low they will have trouble entering empire space. (its possible that the person you saw was an outlaw). Im not to familiar with how does rules work since i have never been in that situation my self,so someone please feel free to correct me

5) Always make sure you have a clone that is up to date! If you have implants they will be lost. The only way to avoid that is to get a jump clone. You can get a jump clone in several ways. Either from someone with a cap ship with this abilety (ask around and im sure you can find someone who sells this),getting 8.0 standing with an npc corp who has medical,or joining an alliance with an outpost. More about how jump clones work can be found here ; http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Guides:Jump_Clones

Note that no matter what you will always have to update your clone when you get podded.

I hope this could be of some help and good luck out there

Regards,
NightCrawler

Being a fellow new player (about 3 weeks now) I'll share what I've already learned in relation to your third question, which is really just reiterating what others have already mentioned, which is: bigger doesn't mean better.

I've already almost lost a destroyer (essentially one ship "above" your starting frigate class) that I thought was all bad ass with 7 turret slots to a band of rats. I didn't have it fit properly but I figured since it was a destroyer that I'd have a much easier time killing rats and doing missions. When that ship almost got killed I quickly jumped into my tristan, which I had been using previously and had a much better setup, and finished the mission no sweat.

I've already seen how the small frigates are useful in fleets, people want them as tacklers (warp jammers), scouts, and even bait. And from what I've been able to tell, a good deal of people use high end frigates for pvp, I'm guessing because they're cheaper to replace and slightly faster to train up for.

I've also heard from several people how they've lost cruisers and battlecruisers to a single well armed, highly skilled pirate in a frigate. To put that in to context for some other people who might be new and coming from some other MMOs, that's the equivalent of a level 15 killing a level 40 in world of warcraft. Where in WoW that would be impossible, due to hit ratings and other mechanics, in EVE I'd wager it's quite common. Really, the only thing a larger ship offers is more effective hit points (ehp), higher levels of modules, and more slots, but you're still just as vulnerable to a skilled frigate pirate if you're in a cruiser as you are in another frigate. There's some really good pvpers out there who don't need much more than a pimped out frigate to lay the hurt on much larger ships with bad fits and/or inadequately skilled pilots.

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Still posted better than plenty of native english speakers, bravo sir!
And good advice too.