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Gallente Ice Interdiction Resumes

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#61 - 2012-10-15 15:31:09 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Would appear Goonswarm is back to manipulating the Oxygen Isotope market (good on them, by the way.) Mackinaw killmails are rolling in. Volume the last two days has been nearly triple the norm. And prices are 1.5x higher than they were.

Prepare. Stockpile. Invest.

Will the prices head upwards to 1400 ISK per unit, as they did last interdiction?


Time to undock with 90K EHP Skiffs. Moving my alt over there for lols and giggles Lol

brb
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#62 - 2012-10-15 15:33:16 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
83, 447 EHP Skiff mining 30 Ice an hr says you might want to just enjoy the cheap fuel.

They didnt tank their barges for 8 months. What makes think they would give up their ma efficienty ships now?
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#63 - 2012-10-15 15:35:29 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:


If true here comes the Procuror multi boxers to GALL space that'll makethe 20 box retriever fleets look like sharks in a school of sardines


English translation, people will afk mine ice in multiboxed Procurors.

The truth is that even if they did, they wouldn't fit tanks, they would fit for yield/cargo and would die to a suicide gank, not to mention that the ore hold is too small to make it really viable.

36 minutes for 12 blocks of ice is a sizeable amount of time invested for the return even in a cheap barge like a Procuror.



Fit tank and you get almost free of ganking, they can still gank you no matter how much tank you fit but you will be less of an interesting target when there are so many lazy ones not fitting a single tank mod.

brb
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-10-15 16:08:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
[Skiff, Tough Cookie]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

ORE Ice Harvester

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hammerhead II x5

Go to belt, launch drones, turn on ice harvester and go do something else. 116,662 EHP. For added fun toss in Tengu shield bonuses to bring that up to 157,352 EHP. Welcome to AFK PvP.

Sure you won't be getting that amazing ice yield, but instead you will bask in the glory of ganker tears and after all, can you really put a price on those? Cool
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#65 - 2012-10-15 16:20:06 UTC
Tarassse wrote:
Do note that whether their mackinaw is tanked or not, it still dies to 2 catalysts in 0.6.
Not really, no.
Or rather, if they do, I'm really interested in your 1k DPS Cats because I could use some…
Hypercake Mix
#66 - 2012-10-15 16:33:49 UTC
Two months of "Macks are ungankable" to mislead the bads into flying badly tanked Macks.
Sell tons of Mackinaws.
Wrecking shots on that 250m sig radius.
lol.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2012-10-15 16:50:00 UTC
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#68 - 2012-10-15 17:05:08 UTC
Speaking of untanked barges, there's a thread in New Player Q&A from someone with their first barge, despite attempts to convince him to fit a tank of sorts even if it's just a DCU there is a poster saying that he shouldn't fit a tank at all, I implore some of the GSF posters here to educate the noob and especially the bad poster who is spreading misinformation.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

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Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-10-15 17:40:49 UTC
I have an alt with a 100% full blown tanked mackinaw.

Mackinaw next to me has a faster yield, but all his ice just exploded with his ship. Profit: -200m give or take.
Me, I'm about to dock with my first load of ice. Profit: I honestly don't know, but I did scoop the T2 loot from 9 Catalyst and 3 Tornados. I would post the kill mails and chat logs after this whole Pay attention to us!!! nerd rage event is over. The chat logs will have to be heavily censored though. Those gankers have an interesting vocabulary when they are mad.

Thanks gankers!
Cede Forster
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#70 - 2012-10-15 17:40:56 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
NOT POSSIBLE!!!

Ganking CAN'T be done in Eve anymore.

Mackinaws are INVULNERABLE.

ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked


Not invulnerable, just not cheap to do.

No way man. I've been reading for days and days about "Eve is dying" because of the Mack buff. yaddy ya....

And if...errr... "not profitable".... what would be the errr..... reason..... for.... the.... errr... interdiction?

Lies. All lies.

This.

After all the whinage and crying that suiciding miners is no longer profitable I find it hard to believe that miners are being suicided to increase... profits.



lets just get this straight

miners were whining until CCP freaking ears started bleeding and they buffed mining ships, selling it as "changing them so they all have their place"
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-10-15 18:14:09 UTC
Another Mackinaw dead next to me. He is in an NPC corp and has yet to warp off.

/scoops Mackinaw loot

I'll worry about him coming back in a PvP ship when he wakes up.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#72 - 2012-10-15 18:40:54 UTC

If you are losing your mack to 2x suicide catalysts... you are fitting it poorly, and I have no sympathy for you. You can easily fit a solid tank (35k+) with a modest yield...

If you want to fit for max yield, then you risk getting suicide ganked... The choice is yours... and CCP should not hold your hand and protect you anymore than they already have!!!


Ginger Barbarella
#73 - 2012-10-15 18:42:40 UTC
lrn2eve, miners.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#74 - 2012-10-15 19:26:37 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:


If you want to fit for max yield, then you risk getting suicide ganked... The choice is yours... and CCP should not hold your hand and protect you anymore than they already have!!!




Thanks.

The gankers always say we are 'stupid' for not tanking 100%.

For me, it's RISK vs REWARD. Not stupidity.

And I will almost always fit for max yield.

...and not been blown up while mining in over 1yr, 8 months.

Those miners who do get exploded are AFK, period.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Hrothgar Nilsson
#75 - 2012-10-15 19:42:30 UTC
I'm sure somebody is just chomping at the bit to use locator agents to track you down and pop your cherry. Just because you posted that.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#76 - 2012-10-15 19:57:33 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:


If you want to fit for max yield, then you risk getting suicide ganked... The choice is yours... and CCP should not hold your hand and protect you anymore than they already have!!!




Thanks.

The gankers always say we are 'stupid' for not tanking 100%.

For me, it's RISK vs REWARD. Not stupidity.

And I will almost always fit for max yield.

...and not been blown up while mining in over 1yr, 8 months.

Those miners who do get exploded are AFK, period.


I'm not a highsec ganker.... and I'll admit I occasionally mine in highsec on my indy alt....

It's 100% about risk vs reward. I fit a decent tank on my exhumer, and have never lost it despite half a dozen attempts on it (although I definitely would have if I didn't tank it!). If you can mine safely, without tanking it... good for you....

If you really accept the risk when NOT tanking your ship, then you won't whine and cry and complain about OP suicide gankers if you are ganked, because you'll realize it was your choices that enabled them to gank you!
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#77 - 2012-10-15 19:59:51 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
I'm sure somebody is just chomping at the bit to use locator agents to track you down and pop your cherry. Just because you posted that.

For 20m, I'll tell you were he mines. Miners should not be THIS stupid.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#78 - 2012-10-15 20:02:15 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

Just pointing out. They still dont tank their ships.

What I heard, they don't need to. CCP did it for them.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Ginger Barbarella
#79 - 2012-10-15 20:05:57 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:


If you want to fit for max yield, then you risk getting suicide ganked... The choice is yours... and CCP should not hold your hand and protect you anymore than they already have!!!




Thanks.

The gankers always say we are 'stupid' for not tanking 100%.

For me, it's RISK vs REWARD. Not stupidity.

And I will almost always fit for max yield.

...and not been blown up while mining in over 1yr, 8 months.

Those miners who do get exploded are AFK, period.


Today's "Duh" Note for readers: The same laziness that gankers and forum warriors attribute to "AFK" miners can be found in gankers, too. Get out of the mission and trade hubs, and actually take 2 minutes to find a safe place to operate. You're just about guaranteed a safer existence as a miner. lrn2eve

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-10-15 20:13:38 UTC
Three more Catalyst dead. Loot scooped and resuming mining. Think I might go make a sandwich, yeah that sounds good.