These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
Previous page12
 

POSs: new and improved with flavor crystals

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#21 - 2012-10-15 12:37:39 UTC
Problem with pos is its code is ancient and none in current ccp has even clue how it works. So theyre delaying fixing it untill they run out of excuses to do so.

Personally i would settle for improved management interface. Current one is terible. Really terible.

But then again im looking forward what they comeup when they finally get arround to fix it.

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#22 - 2012-10-15 12:58:22 UTC
Can't come soon enough if you ask me, PoS's are annyoing to use.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Obax Bannon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-10-15 13:12:11 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Flavor crystals... CCP I found a better way to go about amarr ammo! Big smile



Can i have the meth flavor please Big smile
Darod Zyree
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-10-15 13:30:24 UTC
People keep asking for personal POSs, I am against this unless we get to war dec individual players to remove said POSs.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#25 - 2012-10-15 14:52:40 UTC
Darod Zyree wrote:
People keep asking for personal POSs, I am against this unless we get to war dec individual players to remove said POSs.

This is a good point. We will need a mechanic of some sort to allow their removal by force, otherwise we will quickly find all area's filled with POS's of people that are no longer active.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Idris Helion
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-10-15 16:18:07 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Darod Zyree wrote:
People keep asking for personal POSs, I am against this unless we get to war dec individual players to remove said POSs.

This is a good point. We will need a mechanic of some sort to allow their removal by force, otherwise we will quickly find all area's filled with POS's of people that are no longer active.


Dead sticks are already a problem in a lot of systems. Isn't there some timer that causes a control tower to go poof? I.e., if the owning corp goes inactive or the tower remains unfueled for more than 30 days or something? Or does the game just leave the dead sticks there forever, tying up that moon indefinitely?
Ignatius Leopardi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-10-15 16:44:54 UTC
Darod Zyree wrote:
People keep asking for personal POSs, I am against this unless we get to war dec individual players to remove said POSs.


This is an interesting point.

Clearly, personal POSs cannot be "no risk" propositions. We don't want SimEVE here.

That said, if personal POSs are to become part of the game mechanic, then risk v. reward will need to balance--otherwise it is a pointless area of development.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-10-15 17:05:20 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
I think 'growing' a structure to be specific to the inhabitants would be best. Let players decide if they want it to function more closely to a station or more towards a deep outpost with defenses, and of course everything in between. Both destructible in their own way.


I think it would be cool if communities in low/ null had to design PoS layouts to account for defense against attacks.
Outer ring PoS's would have a focus on defense and guns, while the inner ones would be mining or producing.

Automated gun and drone bays would be cool. Then they could have scripts for them that allow you to configure thier actions and use.

Janet Patton
Brony Express
#29 - 2012-10-15 17:19:56 UTC
They are eventually redoing POS do be more module and something you can dock and enter. but these changes are still years from happening.

Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke.
Ignatius Leopardi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-10-15 17:55:13 UTC
Janet Patton wrote:
...but these changes are still years from happening.


Sad
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#31 - 2012-10-15 18:02:52 UTC
Ah yeah, instead of the anchoring mechanic for all the POS modules give them a fitting screen like ships have. That would be great.
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#32 - 2012-10-15 19:05:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Troll
Ignatius Leopardi wrote:
Janet Patton wrote:
...but these changes are still years from happening.


Sad

One year max.
If the wait is any longer I will troll New Eden to death.
Trust me, I'm a cat troll.

Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Ah yeah, instead of the anchoring mechanic for all the POS modules give them a fitting screen like ships have. That would be great.


They said they wanted it to be like lego.
If you see a tower in a picture, you could easily recognize its yours.
I don't see how they can pull it off with just modules.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#33 - 2012-10-15 19:07:53 UTC
Janet Patton wrote:
They are eventually redoing POS do be more module and something you can dock and enter. but these changes are still years from happening.



Ummmm.....no.

CCP Soundwave said at FF that the work would begin on these following Retribution's release. The CSM has been gathering feedback well in advance (and sharing it with CCP) so they are as well informed as possible during the pre-planning and early prototyping which has already begun, from what I've heard and understand. But the real meat of the work won't begin till December, following the expansion's release, and the plan is still to have the first phase of neu-POS's out for the Spring 2013 expansion.

We'll keep you posted as we know more for sure, we've been trying to secure a sneak peak at the early design documents so we can go to the Winter Summit with some feedback, and not just see these for the first time.

All that to say, this isn't vaporware or some kick-the-can-down-the-road sort of situation, CCP hasn't yet veered from the schedule they've layed out with regards to POS's, hopefully the next couple of months should bring some more details to the surface.

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
Incindir Mauser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-10-15 23:31:11 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Janet Patton wrote:
They are eventually redoing POS do be more module and something you can dock and enter. but these changes are still years from happening.



Ummmm.....no.

CCP Soundwave said at FF that the work would begin on these following Retribution's release. The CSM has been gathering feedback well in advance (and sharing it with CCP) so they are as well informed as possible during the pre-planning and early prototyping which has already begun, from what I've heard and understand. But the real meat of the work won't begin till December, following the expansion's release, and the plan is still to have the first phase of neu-POS's out for the Spring 2013 expansion.

We'll keep you posted as we know more for sure, we've been trying to secure a sneak peak at the early design documents so we can go to the Winter Summit with some feedback, and not just see these for the first time.

All that to say, this isn't vaporware or some kick-the-can-down-the-road sort of situation, CCP hasn't yet veered from the schedule they've layed out with regards to POS's, hopefully the next couple of months should bring some more details to the surface.


Cool.

Any word on whether there are going to fix stupid stuff like T3 assembly? You can build the hulls and subsystems in a POS but you can't assemble the hulls and subsystems into a functional ship in a POS.
Arcosian
Arcosian Heavy Industries Corp Holding
#35 - 2012-10-16 02:14:24 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Janet Patton wrote:
They are eventually redoing POS do be more module and something you can dock and enter. but these changes are still years from happening.

...
But the real meat of the work won't begin till December, following the expansion's release, and the plan is still to have the first phase of neu-POS's out for the Spring 2013 expansion.

You mean Summer 2013 right?
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#36 - 2012-10-16 15:39:15 UTC
Incindir Mauser wrote:
Any word on whether there are going to fix stupid stuff like T3 assembly? You can build the hulls and subsystems in a POS but you can't assemble the hulls and subsystems into a functional ship in a POS.


Not yet, we haven't begun delving into design details with CCP yet but that's a good point of feedback to pass on to the developers. Thats exactly what we're trying to do as CSM reps in the run-up to the major work on the feature, gathering the list of elements we'd like to se integrated into the final design.


Arcosian wrote:
You mean Summer 2013 right?


Sure. Inferno was released in May this year, so whether you call it the Spring or Summer expansions, that's the one I'm referring to. The next major release beyond Retribution (and the subsequent 1.X Retribution updates).

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
Megos Adriano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-10-17 00:41:41 UTC
From what I understand, the new POS's will be like Legos.

And boom goes the dynamite.
Previous page12