Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And WHY should we support something that encourages FOTM playstyle?

isn't FOTM good for the game? i dont exactly see why it should be bad. its good for industry and good for content. keeps things interesting. so more respecs for everyone!

There are no useless skills in EVE (or close enough anyway, but stuff like TSM 5 now that it's not a pre-req should be made useful instead), and you made a choice on what to train, live with it. You might even one day discover that you're glad to have them.
When I started out, I trained Caldari BS 5 in my first few months. I then regretted it for years and never used it...and then suddenly, alpha fleet and PLs Shieldcats using Rokhs came along. At about the same time, we started using shield tanked, high DPS neuting BS for killing caps lacking support, and Ravens work great for it. Due to those and other shield based concepts starting to pop up, shield triage was suddenly in demand for more then just repping towers, and the Chimera was now an easy train.
After 3 years of regretting it, I'm suddenly glad I have that "useless" skill after all. You just have to wait for someone to come up with something that use the skill you don't want right now.

Nope, wrong. I got Gallente BS 5 and am happy with it. Although my focus is on subcaps.

On my alt I'd switch from minmitar ship skills and weapons to amarr ship skills and weapons.. Try to get into a Nightmare instead of a Machariel.

When I learned to drive in my dad's pickup truck it didn't take me 20million more skillpoints to learn to drive my mom's car. Even if it was a right side drive import it wouldn't take months to learn how to drive.

Now try to drive the new type of car where your brain is directly linked to every little piece and system of it, each requiring you to know how it works in order to use them. Once you've learnt that, go try out the car made by the aliens from wherever that we will encounter in year something something.

Skills are part of our life, attributes as well. We can change them once per year and many people use that feature I would assume.
My first EVE character was born with an extremely high Charisma value (being Intaki) and he had no willpower or perception. Still, I was able to pilot 90% of all EVE ships.

What I would like to see is some kind of re-spec, single skill removal or un-training - either limited to one execution per year or as a paid service (like 100 AUR per rank). CCP does have the functionality implemented apparently, otherwise I would have learning and more social skills. So, wouldn't it be fair to say that if they are allowed to revert their "decisions" (avoiding the word mistake) on skills, we could be allowed the same?

I love to explore new things in EVE and I am also committed to it - but I would appreciate any help to get my skill portfolio to L5 someday.

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Finally found this old re-spec thread again. And yes, I still believe that this would be something I really like. Having played for more than 8 years now, my skill sheet is utterly corrupted with all the stuff I have tried out. But still, there are some things that I decided for myself that I don't want to do anymore (especially in the light of upcoming changes to capitals). So, getting back that training time in order to invest it to something I am really committed to would be wonderful.

I was absolutely happy when the attribute remap was introduced long time ago - being an Intaki Character born with maximum Charisma attribute.. - And I don't think that my brain would suffer more skill changes than it does from attribute changes. So, once per year a skill remap would be awesome.

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Bad idea is bad. If you want a char with different skills, then either train one or buy one.

I don't judge ideas, whether they are good or bad. But this should be a discussion forum, and not only a place to press the "I like" or "+1" button.

>> It removes the point of having skills to begin with.
Why is that so? CCP just offers a basic set of skills along with a ship to fly. If you are unhappy with it, get rid of it. Or don't even get you the default Velator nowadays.

>> It removes the point of having attributes.
The ability to change attribute once a year already made this obsolete. Why should it now be different?

>> It removes attribute implants from the game.
I tend to disagree. You still want to train something, don't you? And even if it made attribute implants obsolete, we could remove those from the much desired Capsule Killmails.

>> It removes variety and instead encourages FOTM and cookie-cutter setups.
Mono-cultures usually prosper for a short time, until nature finds a way to correct that illness. Diversity will still win in the long run, but skill remapping would add some possibilities to specialize after exploring.

>> It removes the uniqueness, history and "character" of your character.
No. You remove that once you use the feature. No one would be forced to flash his own memories.

>> It removes planning and choice and consequences.
As it has been said, the feature should be limited to one remap per year. Then you still can plan, choose and feel the pain for one year.

>> It removes goal-setting, progression and any achievement in those areas.
I'd think that it might change goal-setting, progression and achievements. Still, it does not remove it. If you want something, you still need to work for it. The price for making it happen might change.

>> It kills character trading.
I guess it would rather boost it, just like the remap option increases your selling price nowadays.

>> It massively boosts older characters over new ones.
Being a 8 year old character I can fly almost all sub-caps and the Gallente capitals. Most basic skills are on L5, specializations are usually on L4. If I had the choice I would put some of the skills I have trained to maximize the specializations and have less skills to track (which are not adding a real benefit right now). So, what would I gain? 5%? A newly certified pilot lacks those skills of course. But I don't see how that's different with or without having the ability to streamline my brain?

>> It introduces "catching up" as a concept in EVE and instantly makes it impossible to do.
Would you elaborate more about this "catching up" concept?