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WH Thiefs/Griefers
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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#21 - 2012-10-06 01:35:12 UTC
And make sure you have a fleet booster parked in pos to give you umph, but yes bait them, at some point it becomes too much, also is your hole static...if so make sure you are watching when he logs on, then get him at entry and use locator agents to find him and pals in hi sec this way you learn his patterns and his pals, they know your tactics and time you log in and out, change that awhile mix it but do it as a group cause if you don't get rid of cockroaches they will recruit more roaches with the promise of pewpew WH take over. There's a guy his name is Croakroach he has his own band of baddies, pay him im sure he will get the job done in hi sec for you he is a professional thug.
Blodhgarm Dethahal
8 Sins of Man
Stray Dogs.
#22 - 2012-10-06 21:27:13 UTC
Bait Skiff Big smile

Just have him mine in a grav and have cloakies nearby to nail the guys who come to kill him.
easily killed1
Downloaded Bears
#23 - 2012-10-07 00:22:55 UTC  |  Edited by: easily killed1
Add a personality test to your application.

On our application we have a Riddle and depending on how they respond to it they can be rejected out of hand. Spies are often lazy or impatient and will have simple answers, some people will get the literal "correct" answer. The people who you want to recruit the most are the ones who take the time and come up with a creative solution, you can also then troll them about their "creative solutions" later

A fun thing to do when you get infiltrated is to spread the love, and the best way to find out how to counter a spy is to be one, and see what works against you.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#24 - 2012-10-15 13:52:01 UTC
Risk of corp-theft keeps the more 'casual' corporations out of W-space. Not necessarily a bad thing.

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Siderman
Noc Industry
#25 - 2012-10-15 16:14:04 UTC
OP contact these guys.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82516&find=unread

Winter Borne can have a fleet up in your WH today to help flush out the varmints. They are Merc's so there is a fee but consult with him to see he has some thoughts.
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#26 - 2012-10-15 17:23:53 UTC
Spies are not lazy. They wouldn't be spies if they were... Trust me, I'm a Lead Farmer.
Rubba Dub Dub
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-10-15 18:23:21 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Spies are not lazy. They wouldn't be spies if they were... Trust me, I'm a Lead Farmer.


Wow, that was....unhelpful.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#28 - 2012-10-15 18:25:13 UTC
Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:
Bait Skiff Big smile

Just have him mine in a grav and have cloakies nearby to nail the guys who come to kill him.


I've seen people try this before. Had a cloaked Proteus next to their hulk and skiff.

So three pilots were popped and podded that day, and we didn't lose any ships, so...

I'm gonna call this myth busted.
LoanWolf Tivianne
Ace's And 8's
#29 - 2012-11-15 07:50:36 UTC
i would say pay a bigger more experienced WH corp to come get rid of them but that's just me i guess one thing for sure don't keep losing to them or you will never get them out

yea my spelling sucks so do you go back to work school teacher your not wanted here
12 Avada
True RoHiKaNs
#30 - 2012-11-15 12:23:58 UTC
Aless Benetek wrote:
Well, still learning this WH life...so far am having a blast and learning TONS!

I quit mining in the WH, moved my mining alt back to Hi Sec (see WH mining thread).

Now what I have run into is a WH Thief/Griefer situation I wanted your feedback on.

Our Corp was doing recruiting for US TZ, I and couple others were brought in on that drive.

I understand Corp thiefs, from what I read they infiltrate a corp, gain access to hangers by promotions, or scam on a courier contract, etc.

The whole promotion thing sounds like a long/difficult process - no so in WHs it seems?

When I joined a WH corp and first entered the POS, there were corp hangers full of expensive T2 and T3 ships freely accessible and unlocked secure containers floating about with sweet modules.

Well, I guess one of the new recruits that came in with me was a theif/griefer, either pre-planned or just an opportunistic jerk who couldn't pass up being a .... jerk.

He stole a bunch of ships, modules, and self-destructed several ships as well.

Well needless to say, recruitment is shut down and expensive ships/modules are locked down.

This Thief has now turned into a Griefer...bringing his alts and corpmates/buddies to live in our system and harass us.

Their scanning ship is visible once a day when he scans down sites/static WH, etc. then they cloak and wait...this is the major reason I moved my solo afk miner back to Hi Sec.

So how do you prevent thiefs or griefers from joining your corp? What measures have you found effective to defend/deal with them? What about once a WH griefer is now in your system hangin out?

I thought about a deposit to join but then folks would think it was a Goon-like recruiting scam.

Full API - on all accounts, of course.

Really though, not sure you can protect against em...and from a corp theif perspective, WHs seem easier to steal from than Hi Sec corps. From a griefing perspective, once they are inside, they can share the WH access with their corpmates/friends/alts and be a pain in the arse.

Thoughts/comments/suggestions?




If you realy ask about that kind of things Mr. - you are nuub go play guitar hero
illirdor
Upper Class Goat
#31 - 2012-11-16 09:32:17 UTC
12 Avada wrote:
Aless Benetek wrote:
Well, still learning this WH life...so far am having a blast and learning TONS!

I quit mining in the WH, moved my mining alt back to Hi Sec (see WH mining thread).

Now what I have run into is a WH Thief/Griefer situation I wanted your feedback on.

Our Corp was doing recruiting for US TZ, I and couple others were brought in on that drive.

I understand Corp thiefs, from what I read they infiltrate a corp, gain access to hangers by promotions, or scam on a courier contract, etc.

The whole promotion thing sounds like a long/difficult process - no so in WHs it seems?

When I joined a WH corp and first entered the POS, there were corp hangers full of expensive T2 and T3 ships freely accessible and unlocked secure containers floating about with sweet modules.

Well, I guess one of the new recruits that came in with me was a theif/griefer, either pre-planned or just an opportunistic jerk who couldn't pass up being a .... jerk.

He stole a bunch of ships, modules, and self-destructed several ships as well.

Well needless to say, recruitment is shut down and expensive ships/modules are locked down.

This Thief has now turned into a Griefer...bringing his alts and corpmates/buddies to live in our system and harass us.

Their scanning ship is visible once a day when he scans down sites/static WH, etc. then they cloak and wait...this is the major reason I moved my solo afk miner back to Hi Sec.

So how do you prevent thiefs or griefers from joining your corp? What measures have you found effective to defend/deal with them? What about once a WH griefer is now in your system hangin out?

I thought about a deposit to join but then folks would think it was a Goon-like recruiting scam.

Full API - on all accounts, of course.

Really though, not sure you can protect against em...and from a corp theif perspective, WHs seem easier to steal from than Hi Sec corps. From a griefing perspective, once they are inside, they can share the WH access with their corpmates/friends/alts and be a pain in the arse.

Thoughts/comments/suggestions?




If you realy ask about that kind of things Mr. - you are nuub go play guitar hero


Riiight cause you just knew everything at once.... this isnt GD....

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AdZc
Legio Prima Victrix
#32 - 2012-11-16 16:55:18 UTC
Yea, corp is a bit fail, brand new corpie and access to all that **** on first day!

We had a very similar issue (im curious who the pilot(s) harrsing you are) recently, but they only had 2 ships (falcon and a cloaky loki) in the Wh meaning almost everytime we done something we outgunned them, they caught one miner alt in a cheapy retriver and his pod (corpie afk'd an new he ****** up) but they got bored.
Tommassino Preldent
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-11-17 00:09:59 UTC
First of all you should find out their characters and watchlist them, im pretty sure you have a few names by now from being killed by them. Then baiting them should be pretty easy cause you will know what they can field.
Alisyana
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-11-17 14:40:58 UTC
LoanWolf Tivianne wrote:
i would say pay a bigger more experienced WH corp to come get rid of them but that's just me i guess one thing for sure don't keep losing to them or you will never get them out


Yeah, contract some mercs. There's a few posting in this thread, shouldn't be too hard to figure out who they are.

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