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A Mission Runner's Selling Habits
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Musashi Date
#1 - 2012-10-10 09:42:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Musashi Date
How does everyone sell their mission loots? Do you just dump everything in the market? Dabble in a bit of refining or trading? How much do you make with your method of selling?

I sort my items using EveRefinery, selling the refined minerals when it peaks. Then I handpick some of the items which can be placed on sell orders, which are usually the 1M+ worth ones. I save the tags.. I know they're worth alot for some LP items and for people that watch their standings, but I don't know how to sell them 'properly'. Ah, and since my skills are still low, I've started to stockpile Meta 4 loot.
ugh zug
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-10-10 11:01:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ugh zug
i use to do that now i just sort by valuable items in the UI and refine the rest.

items i keep are moved to my market hub station alts inventory for eventual trading.

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Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#3 - 2012-10-10 11:01:51 UTC
Musashi Date wrote:
How does everyone sell their mission loots? Do you just dump everything in the market? Dabble in a bit of refining or trading? How much do you make with your method of selling?

I sort my items using EveRefinery, selling the refined minerals when it peaks. Then I handpick some of the items which can be placed on sell orders, which are usually the 1M+ worth ones. I save the tags.. I know they're worth alot for some LP items and for people that watch their standings, but I don't know how to sell them 'properly'. Ah, and since my skills are still low, I've started to stockpile Meta 4 loot.


The amount of time it takes to sell single stacks, most mission loot is better just refined. You go from dozens of stacks of meta-1 or 2 or even 4 items which are worth less than 50k per stack down to only a few stacks of ore.

Thing is, the time it takes to right click a stack or single item, get market details, think about it for a moment, evaluate, decide to sell, either sell to a buy order or create a sell order, this time rapidly adds up. You could spend hours doing that. Or you could refine and sell the ore to buy orders. My feeling has been that the time I've saved allowed me to do more missions, more LP, bounties etc. than what I may have potentially lost in refine inefficiency, losing out to sell orders etc.
Dirael Papier
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#4 - 2012-10-10 13:50:10 UTC
Open up the item window and filter out valuable items (I have it set for items valued at 200k+) and sell those along with the salvage materials. Everything else I refine and put the resulting minerals in a freight can in station to be used later. Used for what I have no idea though, but no reason I can't just hang onto em anyways.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#5 - 2012-10-10 14:28:03 UTC
At first I thought that I would stock plates, reppers and such for use in pvp fits but two days ago I decided just sell everything and in case of need just transfer ISK from my PVE alt instead of hauling stuff my L4s base to Teon which happens to be nearest hisec system from where I live.

And in general I sold/sell everything I can get > 100k for and grind into minerals everything below this amount and sell them too. I have no brain to handle manufacture or market pvp so they are not useful for me anyway.

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Denal Umbra
Coffee Hub
#6 - 2012-10-10 14:53:15 UTC
I usually use a custom filter called "Refining"

If value is <400k and
quantiy <10k

then recycle what shows up. The 10k rule is there for if i misplace the ammo in the item hangar. Tho been considering upping it to 1m value since single selling is such a pain.

Also, most if not all mission loot you get is bought up by some trader in a hub for resale so the price difference in buy/sell is less than 15% and if you wanted to sell via sell orders, you would have to sit in station for a few hours/days.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-10-10 16:12:19 UTC
i just dump everyhing into a station container and use EveRef to pick out the 4-5 most valuable items to sell. the rest just stacks up in there until mineral prices peak; which is when i nuke everything i haven't sold yet.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Ginger Barbarella
#8 - 2012-10-10 18:37:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginger Barbarella
This is all "general" , so bear this in mind.

1) I keep all but the very BEST launchers, and use them to bump my invention rates for launchers. Same with 10mn AB/MWD and hybrid turrets.
2) sell the high-meta stuff worth 75k+
3) keep a few select items that I use regularly
4) build up and reprocess all other loot, use minerals for building
5) salvage all L3/L4; use to build T1 rigs for market
6) keep all faction & pirate tags. Period.

That's about it for me, in general. I have an alt with perfect refine/reprocess, so it's all good there.

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Alliria Seedspawn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-10-10 23:02:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Alliria Seedspawn
You utilize the services of Pro Synergy of course, and let us do it for you!!
Musashi Date
#10 - 2012-10-12 17:28:50 UTC
After looking around, I found the site DaOpa's Static Corp with a useful LP Store database search. Basically for me, I can type in the Insignias that I found and it would return possible LP items that it can purchase. So I've made an ingame note now, listing what Insignias and how many to collect for what LP item.

As for pirate tags well, I found the wiki page for datacenters that lets you sell them the tags for faction standings. Now I know what tags to keep, and what tags would be better off to sell.

Looking at the other posts, basically our income will be affected by mineral prices huh? We're like miners that have bounties on asteroids then...
Angeal MacNova
LankTech
#11 - 2012-10-13 04:33:36 UTC
Yeah, I like the term "Mission Mining".

As someone already said, time is money and if you waste too much time going through the items to pick out specific one, check prices, create sell order, etc. it all adds up.

But with the right filtering and you wait. If you run missions for a particular agent for week after week, then do the picking, refining and selling just once a week.

All the items get processed/sold just the same but in a fraction of the time it would take for a person to do it after each mission run.

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Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-10-13 05:59:20 UTC
But it doesn't change the time you need to harvest all these treasures.
For my part, i just live on the bounties (and the rewards), i turn the wrecks on "free for all" and don't touch them.
I don't know if i lose money and i don't really care, for i get enough money for my needs and i don't force myself to do something i don't like.
Josef Djugashvilis
#13 - 2012-10-13 23:13:53 UTC
I only really salvage if the mission is in the same 'room' as my agent.

Then, I tend to sell/reprocess once a year.

I just don't like salvaging.

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Musashi Date
#14 - 2012-10-14 20:28:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Musashi Date
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
I only really salvage if the mission is in the same 'room' as my agent.

Then, I tend to sell/reprocess once a year.

I just don't like salvaging.


Yeah, I have this corpmate that only salvages/loots when the room has multiple BS/BC or has a significant number of wrecks. He also just reprocesses everything, save for some heavy missiles that he uses. He also just dumps the tags/insignias off the market..
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#15 - 2012-10-15 05:18:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
EVE Refinery software allow to appraise if item is more valuable as single piece or refined. But it takes forever to sort couple of weeks worth loot so at certain point of time I've stopped selling loot and ended up with billion(s) worth pile of garbage.

And switched to loot-less incursions.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#16 - 2012-10-15 05:48:26 UTC
When I ran missions a lot, I would save loot until the storyline popped up. Then take 15 missions worth of loot to Jita and quick sell it. I was never concerned about the 5% or whatever. I just wanted to get the stuff gone and start over.
Nuela
WoT Misfits
#17 - 2012-10-16 16:59:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Nuela
Quick scan using the new cargo buttons to pick out items worth, say, over a mill....then one huge massive recycle.

Stock up the minerals and build stuff.

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Take your built stuff, your salvage, implants from storylines, your expensive found mods and your LP reward stuff and when it gets worth about 800 mill...package it up in one big courier contract and have someone haul it to Jita with a billion collateral.

After a couple of months of this, pop into Jita, sort through your crap and sell it all via sell orders...either instant if it is a decent price or a persistant sell order if it isn't.

Watch the 4-6 billion isk creep into the wallet over the next week.

In short - everything you find in Eve is crap. Take all your crap and put it together until you have a big huge pile o'crap. Sell crap and get something nice :)
Ginger Barbarella
#18 - 2012-10-16 17:11:08 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
EVE Refinery software allow to appraise if item is more valuable as single piece or refined. But it takes forever to sort couple of weeks worth loot so at certain point of time I've stopped selling loot and ended up with billion(s) worth pile of garbage.

And switched to loot-less incursions.


Eve Refinery is great for one or two things at a time; if you have a hangar full of high meta stuffs, it's just about as useless as the market window. If there was a mechanism to allow us to dump an XML file of our hangar contents, then import that into Eve Refinery for batch processing, that would be useful. Until that day it's just do whatever looks right. I don't analyze anything in batches because of the time sink involved.

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Cage Man
Comms Black
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2012-10-16 23:57:22 UTC
I have a years worth of loot and salvage which is scattered all over eve.. why, cause I am lazy :) I eagerly await the day for CCP to launch a sell all option. Then I can go to Jita, sell all with 1 click and warp away without having to buy a new mouse that as been worn out....
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#20 - 2012-10-17 16:13:46 UTC
Tao Dolcino wrote:
But it doesn't change the time you need to harvest all these treasures.
For my part, i just live on the bounties (and the rewards), i turn the wrecks on "free for all" and don't touch them.
I don't know if i lose money and i don't really care, for i get enough money for my needs and i don't force myself to do something i don't like.

Well to each his own.

In my experience the loot salvage is worth at least as much as the bounties and mission rewards. Most lvl 4 missions are multiple room. I will let my BS sit for a few minutes for the cap to regen. It rarely takes me more than 5 minutes to completely lott/salvage a room with my alt in a noctis. by the time the loot/salvage is done my cap and shields are full. This seems to actually save me time as I never have to warp off giving my self this small recovery time between rooms.

Leaving the loot & salvage behind is leaving half your isk. say one of the harder lvl 4 mission takes 30 minutes and nets 20 mil in bounties and rewards. the loot & salvage will generally be another 20 mil, some times more with a lucky drop or two. Say it takes me 10 minute total to loot & salvage the entire mission. thats 40 mil isk in 40 minutes as apposed to 20 mil in 30 minutes.

Even if that 10 minutes was spent in the next mission, which is not really feasible as the time I spend doing loot & salvage is while I am waiting for my cap to regen between rooms. If you just run straight into the next room without the recovery time it will slow you down as you will have to be more careful conserving cap. Possibly even warping out on occasion. So at best 5 of the 10 minutes would go into the next mission. Those 5-10 minutes in the next mission would net you at best 3-5 mil as apposed to 20 mil collecting the loot & salvage. So leaving it behind will significantly drop your isk per hour.

True this requires a second account, but if you spend more than 30 hours a month running missions the loot & salvage will pay the plex for that second account even with PLEX prices over 600 mil.

If you prefer just running missions with a single account and have no interest in loot or salvage by all means do what you like to do. But there are several lvl 4 missions that have a chance of dropping faction loot worth several hundred mil. Any elite NPC has a small chance of dropping faction loot. While most named NPCs have a much higher chance. I hope you at least stop to check those wrecks on your way through.

personally I only run missions to raise isk. So isk per hour is my primary driver. To me mission running is almost as boring as mining. There is very little challenge to it.The point of playing an MMO is the community interaction. If you play an MMO as you would a solo single player game you are defeating the purpose. There are many single player games out there that are far more fun than solo missioning that do not require a monthly fee. In an MMO you are paying for the community interaction, It seems very pointless if you are going to ignore the primary focus of the game.
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