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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2012-10-15 00:47:50 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:

So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY.



No.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#22 - 2012-10-15 00:49:28 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:


If true here comes the Procuror multi boxers to GALL space that'll makethe 20 box retriever fleets look like sharks in a school of sardines


English translation, people will afk mine ice in multiboxed Procurors.

The truth is that even if they did, they wouldn't fit tanks, they would fit for yield/cargo and would die to a suicide gank, not to mention that the cargo hold is too small to make it actually viable.


I seem to recall at least room for 12 ice blocks so with bonuses & a single ice rig you will have to check it every 15 to 20 minutes & it can tank to ~60k eHP. But it may be more worthwihle just to multibox a ton of retrievers @ 20 million apiece
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#23 - 2012-10-15 00:51:17 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY.
Attacking a Mack isn't profitable.

What's profitable is buying up all the supplies at the all-time low, and then attacking to force the price upwards ... then sell those stocks.


Standard business practice, buy low then create an artificial shortage so that you can drive the price up.

An example would be a union buying up all the product of say coal mines, and then picketing the coal mines so that no more coal can be mined. While they control the supply, they control the price, OTEC & it's real world counterpart OPEC do similar things.

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Powers Sa
#24 - 2012-10-15 00:54:56 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
NOT POSSIBLE!!!

Ganking CAN'T be done in Eve anymore.

Mackinaws are INVULNERABLE.

ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked


Not invulnerable, just not cheap to do.

No way man. I've been reading for days and days about "Eve is dying" because of the Mack buff. yaddy ya....

And if...errr... "not profitable".... what would be the errr..... reason..... for.... the.... errr... interdiction?

Lies. All lies.

This.

After all the whinage and crying that suiciding miners is no longer profitable I find it hard to believe that miners are being suicided to increase... profits.


Keep in mind we weren't whining about it.

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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-10-15 00:56:12 UTC
But of course. It is never a whine when you're the one whining. It's only a whine when the other side is whining.

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Marcus Caspius
#26 - 2012-10-15 00:56:55 UTC
If true here comes the Procuror multi boxers to GALL space that'll makethe 20 box retriever fleets look like sharks in a school of sardines http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lrgYd2Sd3iM/TNLCFtWlIHI/AAAAAAAAAM0/GNU4PtIO__k/s1600/sardines-shark-south-africa-707706-xl.jpg[/quote]

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#27 - 2012-10-15 01:03:19 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY.
Attacking a Mack isn't profitable.

What's profitable is buying up all the supplies at the all-time low, and then attacking to force the price upwards ... then sell those stocks.

So you're saying that picking up horse dung is not actually profitable - but selling it for fertilizer is?

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#28 - 2012-10-15 01:03:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
DarthNefarius wrote:


I seem to recall at least room for 12 ice blocks so with bonuses & a single ice rig you will have to check it every 15 to 20 minutes & it can tank to ~60k eHP. But it may be more worthwihle just to multibox a ton of retrievers @ 20 million apiece


Yes you can tank a Procuror to a decent ehp, but they won't because miners can be extremely lazy. A lot of them still think that yield is better than tank, which is great until they die, then they whine about it.

I mine 'roids, in a tanked barge, go out and shipscan some of the barges at the icebelts, at least 50-75% will have no tank or a minimal one, they're relying on the recent buffs to protect them, they'll also be afk.

If James decides to extend his glorious crusade to help out the GSF, I as a shareholder in The New Order will gladly assist him.

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#29 - 2012-10-15 01:05:42 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
NOT POSSIBLE!!!

Ganking CAN'T be done in Eve anymore.

Mackinaws are INVULNERABLE.

ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked


Not invulnerable, just not cheap to do.

No way man. I've been reading for days and days about "Eve is dying" because of the Mack buff. yaddy ya....

And if...errr... "not profitable".... what would be the errr..... reason..... for.... the.... errr... interdiction?

Lies. All lies.

This.

After all the whinage and crying that suiciding miners is no longer profitable I find it hard to believe that miners are being suicided to increase... profits.


Keep in mind we weren't whining about it.

I was gonna make the call on this one....

But I'll be danged if I am going to spend the next 5 hours linking the hundreds of Goons and FA "poor ganker", "Eve is DYING" poasts on the topic.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#30 - 2012-10-15 01:06:58 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:

So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY.



No.

So you are taking over NC. space because............

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2012-10-15 01:07:48 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:

So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY.



No.

So you are taking over NC. space because............


They attacked us.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#32 - 2012-10-15 01:13:46 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:

So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY.



No.

So you are taking over NC. space because............


They attacked us.

I lolled.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2012-10-15 01:15:30 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:

I lolled.


So did we.
Powers Sa
#34 - 2012-10-15 01:40:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Powers Sa
Touval Lysander wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


No.

So you are taking over NC. space because............


They attacked us.

I lolled.

vince draken admitted he violated otec. he kenw the result of that was an invasion, but "he didn't care".


Touval Lysander wrote:

I was gonna make the call on this one....

But I'll be danged if I am going to spend the next 5 hours linking the hundreds of Goons and FA "poor ganker", "Eve is DYING" poasts on the topic.


The only difference is now we have to use 2 catalysts. That's not really a big deal. I don't see why anyone would whine about that. The act of solo ganking itself isn't "profitable" anymore if that was what you are talking about.

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#35 - 2012-10-15 01:46:01 UTC
Interesting. Cool

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Powers Sa
#36 - 2012-10-15 02:03:03 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Interesting. Cool

That reminds me, I'm going to ping you on skype.

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#37 - 2012-10-15 02:09:49 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:

Touval Lysander wrote:

I was gonna make the call on this one....

But I'll be danged if I am going to spend the next 5 hours linking the hundreds of Goons and FA "poor ganker", "Eve is DYING" poasts on the topic.


The only difference is now we have to use 2 catalysts. That's not really a big deal. I don't see why anyone would whine about that. The act of solo ganking itself isn't "profitable" anymore if that was what you are talking about.

Whining that they can't play solo in an MMORG. Hmmm... Sounds familiar.

They could always errr.... multibox.

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captain foivos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-10-15 02:12:19 UTC
Touval, you are the most cognitively impaired poster in recent memory. Please stop posting. Think of the children. Think of the world they will have to grow up in, filled with your words. Stop posting for their sake.
Powers Sa
#39 - 2012-10-15 02:23:39 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Powers Sa wrote:

Touval Lysander wrote:

I was gonna make the call on this one....

But I'll be danged if I am going to spend the next 5 hours linking the hundreds of Goons and FA "poor ganker", "Eve is DYING" poasts on the topic.


The only difference is now we have to use 2 catalysts. That's not really a big deal. I don't see why anyone would whine about that. The act of solo ganking itself isn't "profitable" anymore if that was what you are talking about.

Whining that they can't play solo in an MMORG. Hmmm... Sounds familiar.

They could always errr.... multibox.

who's your main?

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Arch Stanton's Neighbour
Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc
#40 - 2012-10-15 02:33:34 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY.
Attacking a Mack isn't profitable.

What's profitable is buying up all the supplies at the all-time low, and then attacking to force the price upwards ... then sell those stocks.

And posting about it to try to cause a stampede and cash out.