EVE General Discussion

Is this topic really still going?

Why?

ofc it is, but u only have to read the replies to see what kinda player base this game really has

in eve u have two options

Become an elistis pvp prick

or quit

because everything else gets nerfed like hell by pvp alt complaining because they fuxed there own game up by murdering empire players non stop, now they cant stop, so new players dont have a chance, quit and no new players come up.

rise in subscriptions? No, rise in alt accounts

One other thing I'd say about EVE -- it's a very slow game. Very slow. You spend 90% of your time either harvesting stuff to make ISK, or doing logistics and staging work to prepare for some op. It's sort of like a big military operation: you spend most of your time preparing and waiting, then a small fraction actually doing the thing you were preparing for. Then you start all over again. This is the core design of every MMO I'm aware of, and EVE is no different.

Early on in my EVE career, I became incredibly frustrated at the real-time training system. No matter how much or how little I played the game, there was no way to increase my skills other than time. Every other game levels you up according to how much you play, but in EVE there are no "levels". Only skills. And the only way to skill up is to take the days, weeks, and months necessary to train. It's slow work, and you have to have a clear idea of where you want to go in the game in order for it to be worthwhile, because initially, EVE is not a very fun game to play. In the early going, it's a boring, maddening grind. (Even more so than most MMO's.) There is no guidance, no hand-holding. You're easy prey for every pirate and ganker that comes along. All the good stuff -- a POS, a faction ship, an exhumer, whatever -- is months of training and standings-grinding away. (Not to mention hundreds of millions of ISK.)

So why does EVE persist long after most games have faded away? I think it's because it appeals to players who play the "long game". Their goals are months and sometimes years in the making. EVE is brutally unkind to the immediate-gratification player. EVE reminds me more of the old military sims like HARPOON more than anything. It's not a shooter or a space-combat sim; it's a slow and deliberate strategy game that plays out over months and years.

tl;dr - More than anything else, EVE takes patience. That's a lot for a video-game to ask, but so it is. If you find that it asks too much, there's no shame in just moving on. You can't "lose" at EVE any more than you can "win" at EVE. If it's not fun any more, just stop playing.

Doing this would completely break the game economy. EVE needs huge amounts of trit, all day, every day. Limit that supply and you break the game. Which is why it won't happen. For better or worse, hisec mining is what it is and probably will always be.

Now, this is not to say that CCP can't augment the mining process. And it seems like they are doing this -- the new mining frigate is a welcome addition, and I hear that CCP is experimenting with a "ring mining" mechanic that would add a new scanning element to the process.

But mining is what it is. After ten years, CCP is not going to fool with that mechanic much. It is too central to the game economy.

Why is it that, in the "minds" of most ultra-carebears, "anyone who has anything to do with non-consensual PvP in any manner at any time whatsoever" always = "raging RL dickhead?"

Granted, the latter is easier to type, but....Yeah.

I can haz ur stuffs, OP?

Oh, and in before lock.

I read the rest of your whining.

And then I assigned it the value it was worth, namely, ****-all. Carebear is a mentality, not a killboard score. And yours absolutely stinks of it, mate. That's all I needed to know.

Biomass button, that way ----->

I see a lot of ranting about 0.0 being empty but tbf, if every system was full you wouldn't get 2 jumps into Sov space without crying blob because alliences defend their space. There's plenty of fights to be had there if you know where to look.